Hey guys I was referred here by some guys over at arfcom. I was trying to get some info on a s&w revolver for a buddy. Luckily I was tasked with this . Anyways this is the thread containing the pictures can be found HERE

thanks.

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It is definitely a 2nd Model 44 Hand Ejector. Post the serial number and I can give you a date. Is your friend selling it. If so I would be interested.

Does this forum let you send private messages? I'd rather not post the serial for all to see ;]
Anyways yes it is.

Post all but the last two or three, and indicate them by X's. That will allow identifying the revolver without giving away any chance for problems.

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Originally posted by kylestyle:
Does this forum let you send private messages? I'd rather not post the serial for all to see ;]
Anyways yes it is.

Send me the serial number, or first 3 digits with x's at the end. If it is for sale contact me at ggrace25@comcast.net and send me the number

hello kylestyle,

The pictured gun is a 2nd Model .44 Hand Ejector. The five inch barreled versions are scarce. Based on the photos, I believe that the finish is original. Case coloring on the hammer and trigger looks to be very good. The Magna grips could very well be original to the gun. There should be a number stamped in the wood on the inside of the left grips panel. Tell your friend to be careful in trying to remove the grips, as there appears to be a lot of crud around the screw. The serated trigger is correct. The screws don't appear to have been messed with.

In my opinion, based on the photos, value of the gun would be at least $1300, and likely higher. Your friend could list it on one of the firearms auctions sites (Gunbroker or Auction Arms) and see where it goes. It is a nice example of an uncommon barrel length for that model.

Take care,

Is your buddy planning on selling it? Iam interested if thats why he is looking for info and value. Please put me in the mix if he is trying to sell it or plans on listing it for sale or auction.
Thanks
Matt
matt@cucchiaraknives.com

By the way in the better pics it does not look reblued to me, just my opinion.

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I agree that it's a 2nd Model. The 5 inch barrel isn't rare - as was posted on the other forum. The trademark on the side plate, along with that style of grips (if original) would tend to indicate that it's most likely a late 30's to maybe 1940 production. If the grips are factory original to the gun, the right side panel should be numbered the same as the number on the butt of the frame. I'll bet the S/N is in the 50,000 range, right?

The gun appears to be in very good condition, and there are several members of this forum who who would be tickled to death to buy it for 'fair market value', as well as many more who'd be quick to make a low-ball offer. Just be sure your buddy doesn't get taken to the cleaners by selling it to the first offer.

Mark

Still looking for multiple opinions for value. What is yours wheelgun?

I still say 1000 and some change. My comment on the rarity of the 5" barrel is right out of my copy of Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson.

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Originally posted by kylestyle:
Still looking for multiple opinions for value. What is yours wheelgun?

We gotta be careful that this doesn't turn into a "silent auction". Just don't ask for any offers. The administration here sorta frowns on that kinda stuff.

It's easily worth over $1000. Even if the grips don't number to the gun, they're worth $500+ all by themselves - any day of the week.

If the grips do actually number to the gun, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see it go for $1500 or more on one of the auctions sites.

Mark

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Originally posted by wheelgun610:

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Originally posted by kylestyle:
Still looking for multiple opinions for value. What is yours wheelgun?

We gotta be careful that this doesn't turn into a "silent auction". Just don't ask for any offers. The administration here sorta frowns on that kinda stuff.

It's easily worth over $1000. Even if the grips don't number to the gun, they're worth $500+ all by themselves - any day of the week.

If the grips do actually number to the gun, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see it go for $1500 or more on one of the auctions sites.

Mark

What something is "worth" and what someone will actually pay are usually two divergent points. I think $1500 is a pretty long stretch. I picked up this 2nd Model, with matching numbered grips, at a gun show here in PA earlier this year and paid $800 for it. Not to kick Kyle's gun, but mine has a lot more condition. I'd still hold at around $1000.

I think you non-buyer buyers ought to get some additional pictures.
That gun looks a bit too roundy, to me. Look at the shoulder on the
barrel, where it transitions from the larger shoulder diameter, to the
barrel OD. It has no edge. There are other edges on the frame that
look too rounded-over. as well.

Later, Mike Priwer

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Originally posted by m-1911:
What something is "worth" and what someone will actually pay are usually two divergent points.

I agree. But you know yourself that a lot of the 'rules' about fair market value tend to evaporate when a bunch of hungry bidders think they might get outbid. That's the main reason I kicked the Gunbroker/Auction Arms habit. Too many people who'll over pay - just to keep from getting outbid.

Gun shows are a relatively small venue compared toa 7 day listing on either of the above mentioned sites, would you say?

I was just saying that I wouldn't be surprised to see that gun go for $1500+, and for the very reasons I just mentioned.

If a five inch 2nd Model was the missing link in my collection, or if I just "had to have it", $1500 wouldn't be too far out of line for the gun we're discussing. The condition appears to be a bit better than average, and the magnas certainly don't hurt the value any....

Mark