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Originally posted by balin:
It seems that the state court made a ruling in 2006 that the mayor believes gives him the right to order such a ban

"Nickels contends a 2006 state Supreme Court ruling bolsters his standing. In the case, a private gun show organizer sued the city of Sequim for imposing restrictions on firearm sales at an event at the city convention center. The high court ultimately held that the state pre-emption law does not prohibit municipal property owners from imposing firearms conditions similar to those established by private property owners, said officials with the Washington Attorney General's office. "

and a link to the article
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/366336_guns10.html

He's an idiot.

Washington's pre-emption law, like most others, still allows local governments to impose zoning regulation on businesses selling firearms as well as regulations regarding the discharge of firearms for non-self defense purposes.

What he wants to do (regulate WHERE firearms may or may not be carried) is specifically prohibitied by the pre-emption statute. I hope someone is arrested and retires a millionaire on behalf of the City of Seattle.


Las armas son necesarias
Pero nadie sabe cuando;
Asi no, si andas paseando,
Y de noche sobre todo,
Debes llevarlo de modo
Que al salir, salga cortando.
Martín Fierro
 
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Originally posted by animalmother:
The mayor can shove his gun ban idea up his ass in light of the Heller decision from the Supreme Court. This scumbag and mayor daley of chicago can take a Broke-Back Mountain style camping trip and cry in each others arms over their beloved gun bans.

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Heller will have no impact on this. It is purely a matter of state legislation in this case, and Nickels is flat out wrong.


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Originally posted by: When will these people learn? Mad


Never, when it comes to guns, they are not able to learn the truth.

They are fanatics who basically do anything to get what they want. That is why they lie so often and so well.

That is also why they continue to pass laws that disarm innocent people; which mandates that these same innocents become helpless victims.


An eighty year old Great Grandma should be allowed the "freedom of choice" of how to deal with violent felons who pick her as a target. Instead, people like Nickels, Feinstein, and some of our neighbors, would pass and support laws that legally mandate our Great Grandmothers stand toe to toe and punch it out with the next robber, rapist, or murderer.


I don't live in Seattle, but it sounds like Nickels is just like some of the people where I do live.

The recall process should be used often.


John
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Doug M, the Heller decision will most certainly have an impact on the mayor's plan. The Second Amendment right to keep an bear arms will trump any state or local ban. Under the Supremacy Clause, Federal Law is the supreme law of the law. Just as a state is not free to establish a state religion (1st Amendment violation), a state or any local unit of government cannot pass handgun ban.
 
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Doug M and Animalmother, I'm thinking that with Heller and Washington state law in our corner, we can hit (read that as bitch slap) this assclown with the right hand or the left. Big Grin


Don't carry a gun because of what may happen today. Carry because once, just once, and at the least likely time imaginable, you may run into the worst monster you ever could imagine. Be their worst nightmare and resist them with all the stubbornness that our pioneer ancestors posessed. To do less is to be unamerican.
 
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Don't worry, people! Both the Heller decision and Washington State Law will hand this leftist moron his head. There is nothing like a Socialist that screams his agenda from the top of Queen Anne hill (that's one of the seven hills on which Seattle is built, folks) to set this mental midget in the crosshairs of the Governor. The people of Washington will not tolerate this capricious abuse of the mayor's office.

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Yeah G/F,
But he's doing such useful work currently, just having returned from the conference of mayors in Miami. Where he talked all the other big city leftist mayors into outlawing bottled water like he did! It was either to save the planet, or the polar bears, or the whales, or the children? I can't remember which.
 
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The only penalty the mayor has admitted he has available is a trespass ticket.
I for one will keep carrying when I am in Seattle.
 
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I, unfortunately live within an hour of Seattle. My wife and I visit there from time to time. And, to tell the truth, I'll be damned if I go ANYWHERE unarmed. I've carried legally for almost 8 years. If this mayor (who has eyes on being Governer) really thinks his little citation is going to stop me from carrying to defend me and mine.... well, he's dumber than a rock. And more nutty than Barak Obama.


‘‘Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? ... If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?’’
— Patrick Henry
‘‘The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.’’
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Aindriu, when did James E. Jones make the quote you have in your posting?
 
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One of the 4 buildings I care for between 18:00-02:00 is in a quasi-public, private co-op consortium location. The dedicated "street" that formerly existed on it's south side, was converted to a 7 story paving stoned stair case with resting benches intended to allow access to one of the famous tourist traps just above it in Seattle. That location once the sun goes down, and the tourists go where ever tourists go at night, turns into a chamber of horrors. It's 100 yards from the water front, and 250 yards from a city park where of late, the DEA has busted many dozens, several times in the last year on purchase, sale and outstanding warrant charges. So bums, junkies, meth heads and drunks abound. My dilemma is, depending on what door, at what level I exit or enter the building to and from, determines who's authority I'm under. Some is city DOT, some are public, yet others put me on "landmark" historical status real estate. So his honor has thrown me a real curve ball with his grandstanding on this?
But, I came from a venue where zero carry was allowed, so I ought to be grateful. I'm getting old now, so I can reasonably claim that I couldn't remember who's in charge outside of what doors. So I don't foresee this dorks efforts to change much for me in my world?
While I can't find it currently, there was a crawl across the bottom of the local NWCN 24 hour news channel late Sun. It referred to 4 being "injured" in a shooting near the Pike Street market. (Since when did you get "injured" in a shooting, rather than "wounded"?)
Thanks ever so much, Mr. mayor!
 
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Originally posted by animalmother:
Aindriu, when did James E. Jones make the quote you have in your posting?

According to this webpage, he did.


Las armas son necesarias
Pero nadie sabe cuando;
Asi no, si andas paseando,
Y de noche sobre todo,
Debes llevarlo de modo
Que al salir, salga cortando.
Martín Fierro
 
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http://wenatcheeworld.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080630/NEWS03/715323361

Geeze, wonder why the wiener leftist news outlets within the city don't want to talk about this? Hell! They ought to offer CCW applications to the tourists visiting here!
 
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Well,
I tried to register in order to make a comment to the story on that link. Wouldn't take my profanity-less comment?
It was quite simple really. A short inquiry as to how the mayors no legal carry policy in city parks, was working out so far?
 
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Hooray!,
They did finally post my opinion after the article!
I sure hope it doesn't hurt his feelings?
 
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