JACKSONVILLE, Fla.—Employees with concealed weapons permits can keep guns locked in their cars at work in Florida, but businesses are allowed to prohibit customers from bringing firearms on their property, a federal judge has ruled.


So based on this ruling

I can take legally my Handgun to the ONE (SINGLE) Place I may work
But CANNOT take it to the thousands of businesses I may be a patron of if they say no guns for customers?

Theoretically this actually ends conceal carry in FL if businesses enforce the ruling

I don't know how FL Gun owners can call this a "Victory"

According to Judge Hinkle, "First, the state may compel a business to allow a gun to be secured in a vehicle in the parking lot. Second, the statute is valid to the extent it compels a Florida business to allow a worker — if he or she has a permit to carry a concealed weapon—to secure a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot. Third, the statute is unconstitutional to the extent it compels some businesses but not others — with no rational basis for the distinction—to allow a customer to secure a gun in a vehicle. Fourth, the plaintiffs have met the prerequisites to entry of a preliminary injunction barring enforcement of the unconstitutional portions of the statute."

Florida business have always have the right to ban firearms on their property. It's trespassing if they tell you to leave because of it and you don't.

This changes nothing. Go about your business and keep it concealed.

The Florida Chamber of Commerce and Florida Retail Federation
are looking to push back on the recent law as far as they can

they are going to try to exploit this "split" ruling just watch

What they can't see won't hurt them.

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Originally posted by jeffsmith:
Theoretically this actually ends conceal carry in FL if businesses enforce the ruling.

I don't know how FL Gun owners can call this a "Victory"

The judge was ruling on a challenge to the new FL "take your guns to work" statutory ammendments. He upheld the new law and did not grant temporary injunction requested by the antis. What's not to like?

The "new" statute covers customers, employees and invitees having firearms in their vehicles on another's property. It has nothing to do with carry outside the vehicle and the judge rightfully did not address that as the issue was not relevant.

Bob

OK I can take correction

but I guess my point is /was
if business now decide to enforce limiting customers having guns on their property

then we might have a hurdle to cross

quote:

Originally posted by jeffsmith:
OK I can take correction

but I guess my point is /was
if business now decide to enforce limiting customers having guns on their property

then we might have a hurdle to cross

What do you think they will do differently?

Post BIGGER signs? Yeah, that'll stop them.

This is a balancing act between YOUR right to protect yourself and the business OWNERS right to protect himself by keeping "dangerous" items off of his property. No biggie. Just spend your money where you see "Guns Welcome" signs. I suspect their greed for your money will soon win them over.

KeithCarter
NRA Life

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but I guess my point is /was if business now decide to enforce limiting customers having guns on their property then we might have a hurdle to cross

Nothing has changed, as Wyatt infers, except for what goes on in your vehicle. The property rights/RKBA debate will go on as it has with honest, thoughtful people on both sides standing their ground. But while the debate goes on, a property owner can ban firearms on their property and ignoring such a ban puts you on the wrong side of the law. In FL you could be looking at felony tresspass if you happen to get the wrong DA. Most DA's down here are gun friendly but you never know.

Bob