All my SD S&W revolvers have combat (rounded) triggers for double action work . . . except a virtually new Model 37 no dash I just picked up.
Even my '64 Model 36 now has a "rounded" trigger, due to my polishing off everything but the faintest reminder of the grooves.
IMHO, grooves only belong on a revolver mainly used for single action target, hunting and plinking use.
On my shortened barrel 25-2, I RADICALLY narrowed, rounded and smoothed it's trigger, turning it from being a super-wide, grooved target trigger on a 6" target revolver, to the slickest little narrow and rounded double action trigger you'll ever see.
If you guys remember, the 25-2 had a REALLY wide trigger face. Not this one anymore! It made a fine "gun games" revolver even more "gooder!"
T.
Posts: 1536 | Location: Georgia | Registered: 07 January 2006
I prefer a narrow and grooved trigger on my revolvers. Here is my reasoning. While a rounded and smooth trigger certainly does feel better (especially during extended range sessions) I don't want that smooth trigger when my hand is sweaty or bloody (like in a SD situation). I want to have as secure a purchase as possible. Plus I just like the feel of the narrow grooved trigger better.
I have both and I really like the feel of the smooth trigger best, but like oneminute said-sweaty/bloody hands. I would add that I may not have a perfect purchase on the trigger when I get it unassed for use at close range and I need it to start going bang instantly. I think of these things and still use both types, not really being able to decide after using Smith Wesson revolvers for over 35 years. As long as it is not a wide trigger, I am happy.
Tom Turner, that is one serious looking well thought out combat gun you have there. I bet you can speed reload that thing in the dark, can't you.
Posts: 41 | Location: Great Dismal Swamp, North Carolina | Registered: 31 March 2008
All of my carry guns, revolver and automatic, are DA guns, and all have slick triggers. The trigger has nothing to do with how firm a hold I have on the gun. I want it slick so that in fast DA fire -- which is the way they'll be shot in an emergency -- that trigger will roll smooth without a hitch, even the minor hitch that might arise from being "stuck" to my finger.
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Originally posted by Pisgah: All of my carry guns, revolver and automatic, are DA guns, and all have slick triggers. The trigger has nothing to do with how firm a hold I have on the gun. I want it slick so that in fast DA fire -- which is the way they'll be shot in an emergency -- that trigger will roll smooth without a hitch, even the minor hitch that might arise from being "stuck" to my finger.
I am certainly not comparing myself to Mr. Miculek. I think the whole smooth vs. grooved trigger is largely a matter of training and preference. There is nothing wrong with either setup.
I never modify a SD gun. Too chancy in court, maybe even in action. I will add different grips or Tylers. I would never alter a trigger:too hard to explain in court. John
Posts: 1395 | Location: Ohio | Registered: 16 May 2006
I've got one of each. My 36 has a rounded trigger and my 60 has the lines. For continued shooting, the rounded feels better, but I carry the 60 most of the time. Really, it's a non issue with me.
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Posts: 2114 | Location: Indian Territory, USA | Registered: 23 March 2006
I have triggers rounded on most of my carry and competition guns (usually the same).
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Originally posted by Lt JL: I never modify a SD gun. Too chancy in court, maybe even in action. I will add different grips or Tylers. I would never alter a trigger:too hard to explain in court. John
Easy enough to explain, "I had it professionally modified, just as I did the grips, so that I could more safely and effectively hit my intended target with minimal risk to other people or property." Works just fine as an explanation.
Posts: 294 | Location: Texan in Alabama | Registered: 15 August 2005
I have no use whatsoever for a smooth trigger on a DA revolver. Why in the world would you want your finger sliding around across the face of the trigger? That never made any sense to me. All my revolvers have narrow grooved triggers. If they do not come from the factory that way, I swap out. If no part is available, I cut the grooves myself. Most of the "experts" who tell you a smooth trigger is better will be happy to charge you a fee to grind off the serrations. It is utter foolishness and a moneymaking scam, in my opinion.
The proof? Look at Miculek. He can fire eight shots in one second because he's not wasting energy and momentum by curling and uncurling his finger every time he pulls through. The best and fastest DA shooters use the pad or even the tip of the trigger finger. Ever hear of that guy McGivern and what he accomplished with his short, stubby fingers and fingertip control of the trigger? As long as there are shooters who believe they need to grind the serrations off their triggers, Miculek's modern speed shooting records will stand forever.
Many (if not most) competitive shooters use smooth triggers because they are more comfortable and quite easily managed with a 5.5 lb. DA trigger pull. I have come to realize that with the necessarily heavier pull weights needed to fire all commercial primers of street guns, the serrations are much more important for maintaining DA control. As previously stated, the sweat and blood issues are also extremely important and further proof that your finger needs to feel the trigger and stay in contact with it firmly for proper control.
normal shooting i can't tell the differance. sitting on the table being stared at, i like 'em rounded and polished smooth. so there rounded and smooth. just me and none of mine are collecter quallity.
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Posts: 272 | Location: politicians republic of kalifornia | Registered: 22 November 2001
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Posts: 3116 | Location: The Rust Belt Buckle/Michigan | Registered: 06 September 2006
smooth polished triggers are a lot more comfortable for double-action work. if you shoot a lot your finger will appreciate it. smoothing the finger contact surface of the trigger does not affect the release characteristics of the trigger. i suspect it would be difficult (though maybe not impossible) for even a slime-ball lawyer to make much of that, especially since the smooth triggers are a factory option.
One good thing about here is that as long as a professional gunsmith does the street tuning, there don't seem to be any problems. I need need smooth and beveled triggers on some pistols, and not on others.
Here are two tuned S&Ws with "profiled" triggers. They work very well for me.
Except for the Fitz grips, this M19-3 is stock and I shoot it better than the two above.
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