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Originally posted by SuperMan:
Flop...it would have been very close. The Commander that I had just been forced earlier that year to give up by a no-mind chief who banned semis as "dangerous" had the stock 4.5 pound pull....but you are right..he would have been toast... But since I had given him the third command to "drop it" I was authorized by departental written policy to drop him...

No doubt, and I'd be the last guy to mourn the bozo. I'm glad you didn't shoot him for your sake though. Hopefully the cat made something of his second chance at life. Experience tells me he probably didn't. The fact that you weren't allowed to carry a 1911 is proof that even an idiot (the chief) can inadvertantly save the day sometimes.

Those are training problems, software hitches, not actual gun/hardware problems.

I feel your pain!
99% of the time, I'm carrying a Glock 30 in a pocket holster, (daily, work, etc.) and my "going out in the evening slightly more formal yet casual attire" carry is a 657mg in a Kramer Vertical.....
But now I'm having the need more and more for shirt, tie, and dress slacks kind of attire, and the Glock is too fat, N frame too big for IWB.....
I'm considering a Para LDA in the 3" version, but that is a lot of money if it doesn't work out, please let me know how you make out with the Kimber, that would be a good indication on how it may work for me.
Thanks

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Originally posted by GC:
Those are training problems, software hitches, not actual gun/hardware problems.

In theory, this is undoubtedly true. In practice, however, one is likely to have an unexpected wetware reboot under tense circumstances. Thus, my preference is for something that only requires me to pull the trigger and not manipulate any levers. Thus, off duty, I normally carry a 4513TSW (the early one with a 6-round magazine) with the safety off. I have also been known to carry a Glock (heresy, I know).

I have owned and carried both 1911's and revolvers on and off for nearly 30 years.

I have wiped the safety off on many a revolver yet so far not missed it on the 1911. It is a matter of training and practice.

By the same token, I have owned and shot S&W 39's and 59's etc. but would never carry one. I tried to shoot a combat match once for fun and continually wiped the safety "on".

I now own a Beretta 9000s in .40 S&W that may work out for a DA Semiauto as the safety at least runs the same direction. Only time will tell if I get comfortable enough with it.

Most often these days it is either my Kimber Royal Carry or a S&W Mod 60LS as primary with my 340PD as a second gun.

The fifth amendment prevents me for going into the how, where and why of a second gun

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Originally posted by SuperMan:
It isn't missing the safety physically..it is mentally missing it. Reguardless of what manually operated safety gun you carry, 1911, BHP, CZ52, anything cocked and locked...DON'T PRACTICE COMBAT SHOOTING WITH ANYTHING ELSE.

Good Lord, yes.

I wonder about all these guys who bounce back and forth between carry guns. They've got a gun for this, a gun for that, and none of them work the same way.


Okie John

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Originally posted by Himilage:

The fifth amendment prevents me for going into the how, where and why of a second gun

Only two???
Get with the program...3 is the minimum.

Maybe those 1911 shooters train harder... Maybe they trust themselves more than some others do in a crisis? Could be they don't want a "point and pull" weapon in case someone they don't want to lay their hands on their weapon somehow ends up in possesion of their gun. That person may not be familar with the gun and while they fumble around trying to make it go "bang" the rightful owner can take whatever action he needs to properly protect himself.

There are no absolutes and each of us must work out our own salvation. To make an all encomposing blanket statement that another shooter is somehow endangering himself by arming with a handgun that has a safety is going quite a way out on a limb and assuming too much IMHO and experience.

I have been carrying an Ultra CDP for the past 5 years. I use a Kirkpatrick OWB pancake style holster that tucks the butt in nice and tight. I prefer it to IWB for comfort, and it conceals almost as well. Be aware that the little 3 inch 1911s with alloy frames don't tolerate limp-wristing at all. There isn't enough inertia in the light gun to resist recoil well, and this manifests itself in short-stroking. It's not a problem as long as one is aware of it, and trains a bit.

In my opinion, the perfect carry gun is one that you are really going to carry. Sure, who would not want a custom built Wilson 45 Auto when the SHTF, but as we know, most people stop carrying such big guns within a week or two of getting them.

I think the Ruger LCP is one of the top picks. It weighs less than 10 ounces, is flatter than any J-frame, hold 7 rounds. Sure the 380 is no Double Tap hot-loaded 10mm powerhouse, but it is much better than the 22, 25 or 32 mouse guns that use to define pocket carry.

The "perfect carry gun" is the one that you'll actually carry 100% of the time.

Carry guns are like a fad for me. I get all hyped up when I find a new gun that I like and then what seemed like a great idea for a carry gun one day seems like a boat anchor after couple of weeks of lugging it around.

I find that even the lightest guns are still heavy in my pocket after awhile. My 12 ounce 340PD feels like a chunk of lead compared to my Kel-Tec 7.2 ounce .380 semi auto.

One thing I do though is no matter what gun I have in my pocket I've always got a bigger one setting beside me in my car or truck console. And if I am going into an area that's known to be more risky than others like the local shop and rob I'll have both the 340PD and my Kel-Tec in my pockets.

While the .380 is not the opium caliber to carry it is, as they say, better than a sharp stick and I do carry it 100% of the time.

Smitty

3913 carried in a Null UNS, H&K P7 carried in a Delfatti ISP-R, these are my top two. Not quite as concealable and obviously more bulky - the venerable BHP as #3.

I'm interested in the Walther PPS, had the chance to shoot one recently and it was exceptional in every way. I had heard that some were having teething problems, but after trawling through the forums, it seems that they are all the same people re-posting and not so widespread as it seemed..

I'm still sticking with my 3913 and 640 no dash. Its not broke so nothing to fix!!!!!
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My carry guns for the last 10 years have always been large frame .45 DA revolvers: 4" Redhawk .45 Colt, 4" full lug 625 .45 ACP and just recently 3" full lug 625 .45 ACP and Mountain Gun .45 ACP. And yes, I do carry them during the hot, humid 90 degree PA summers, covering them with only a T Shirt. A 625 .45 ACP with full strength springs and Loc-tite on all the screws is the most reliable and easily loaded handgun that money can buy, period. I'm starting to believe that the Mountain Gun is the best of the lot, with the 3" version a very close second. The Redhawk is a great gun but has some potentially serious ignition issues which make it not as good as a S&W.

I agree that tiny guns are very comfy, until you actually need to use one.

Dave Sinko

IDP a question?
Is the checkering on the lower part of the front strap of your 3913, OEM?