Lots of "perfect" carry guns methinks. I am presently in the market for an all metal Kahr K9 which should conceal real well....

and oh...check out my recent purchase: an all metal Stoeger, i.e., Beretta Cougar made in Turkey at the nice price of $ 369. This is the only auto in my collection, to date, that has not had one single malfunction!



It is about a Commander size 9mm, 15 + 1 round:

The "QUEST" for the perfect carry gun is never ending.

That's what makes it so much fun; it gives you one more reason to buy and experiment with more guns.

MOONDAWG

I kinda agree with Orangehole, that's why I go with a Para Covert Carry in .45. Mostly my 638 is on my ankle or pocket though.

My primary carry gun since 2000 has been a Springfield Champion (Commander clone) in .45 ACP, along with two extra magazines. Most of the time it is IWB, sometimes in a DeSanti Speed Scabbard OWB, and occasionally in a Bianchi X-15 shoulder rig. I lived in the Phoenix area since 1959, moved to the mountains about a year and a half ago, never had a problem concealing the weapon, printing, or discomfort even during 120* heat during the summer. I also carry a S&W Model 60, usually in a Galco pocket holster, sometimes IWB or in a Bianchi upside-down shoulder rig - that little gun practically disappears, and one can "forget" its there, for all practical purposes. It is always with me.

As to the progression of carry, I used to carry a 6 1/2" Model 29 in .44 Mag in a shoulder rig, a Government Model in .45 ACP on the hip, and a .38 Spl Model 15 (usually IWB) when I was actively involved in overseas operations with the Army (a long time ago). As a civilian, I continued to carry the 29 and the 15 for years, eventually replacing the 15 for carry with a 2 1/2" Model 66. After suffering a burglary in which all of those guns (along with a lot of others) were stolen, I carried my 4" Python, but replaced it for that duty with the Champion in 2000, as I did not want to chance losing the Python to an evidence room if I was involved in a self-defense incident. I think you'll find the 1911 to be no problem for carry, even in Phoenix. If you do run into malfunctions, you may want to go to a 4" or 4.25" barrel 1911, the balance is, IMHO, the best of the 1911s, and most quality guns in that length are quite reliable, as well as highly concealable.

Lightweight Commander clone (SW1911PD) is my 'perfect' carry gun. I have shot 1911's for years (including using them for IDPA) and feel totally comfortable witht them. Never a problem with the safey, ever. I prefer to carry revolvers in the fields and woods, but when ccwing in public, it is the 1911. Nothing (for me) has the combination of speed and accuracy that might be required in a tense situation. It is all about the trigger.

I will admit to some problems with the format in warm weather and do relent to pocket carring a 642 or Kahr PM40 during hot, sticky weather.

Just made a switch!! Used to carry either the company gun or a GLOCK 19. Picked up a GLOCK 30 because I found I could pocket carry (!) in khakis with a flush-fit 9-rounder in the gun. There's definitely something there but with the right pocket holster it will work. And the groups....perfecto! Very accurate! Hard to argue with 10 .45's in your pocket.

I've most often pocket carried a model 48 or 36.
I'm currently working on carrying a slightly larger Model 645. It's new to me....but I like it alot already. Looking for the right holster.

Steven B.

You're going to carry a 645 in your pocket?

Picked up a pair of HK P7 squeeze cockers a few weeks ago and they are now my carry gun. The mechanism is smooth, fool proof and very safe, they say the safest made. Accuracy is almost scary as they have a fixed barrel and recoil is non-exsistent. One is going off for hard chrome and night sites pretty soon and the other will be my carry gun. Prices are the lowest I have ever seen and I have been wanting one for close to twenty years! Once you have fired one of these you'll see what I mean. They do tend to get warm after a few mags have been fired but thats not an issue in a confrontation. Keeping them stoked with Ranger 127 +P+ which they eat like candy!

Torrejon,

The P7 in my opinion is also the safest pistol to have around kids. My 10 and 12 year olds can't activate the squeeze cocker and soon lose any interest in trying to do so.

Regards,

Dave

The perfect carry gun is...

a J frame with target sights.

Children who can not activate the squeeze cocker of a P7 will not be able to pull the trigger of a DA revolver.

One of the biggest problems with the autos that I have found is the need to keep chambering and un-chambering the carry ammo. This quickly chews up the rims and seats the bullets deeper into the case and if these rounds are fired there will be disastrous results. You need to have lots of carry ammo and rotate it very frequently. Or you could eliminate this problem entirely by never practicing.

Can somebody please identify the Ruger revolver above with the bobbed hammer and strange grips? That's an interesting barrel contour also. And who did the work?

Dave Sinko

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Originally posted by David Sinko:
Children who can not activate the squeeze cocker of a P7 will not be able to pull the trigger of a DA revolver.

One of the biggest problems with the autos that I have found is the need to keep chambering and un-chambering the carry ammo. This quickly chews up the rims and seats the bullets deeper into the case and if these rounds are fired there will be disastrous results. You need to have lots of carry ammo and rotate it very frequently. Or you could eliminate this problem entirely by never practicing.

Can somebody please identify the Ruger revolver above with the bobbed hammer and strange grips? That's an interesting barrel contour also. And who did the work?

Dave Sinko

That's a Ruger Speed-Six. It was a standard model at one time.

I don't unload my carry weapon. It goes in the safe exactly as it is. In the morning, I take it out and holster it. It gets unloaded at the range, out of the barrel, and then gets cleaned and reloaded with fresh ammo.

Mr. Sinko,

Unfortunately, children can and have mastered the double action trigger pull of a revolver. They use what mechanical advantage they have available which is in their thumbs. Yes, this means they have the barrel pointing at their heads. That is why most shootings of this type are inevitably fatal for children. In 15 years of emergency medicine, I've seen far too many of these incidents.

I agree with ttpete, I used his method when I used to carry regularly and will do so again once I have my CCW.

Regards,

Dave

+ 1 for the Ruger Speed Six.