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A word of warning if you are left handed, you may not be able to adjust it to the left enough to hit were you aim.



I'm not sure I understand this. You adjust the laser to point where the gun shoots. Once that's done, it should be right for any shooter. Which hand you hold it in should make no difference. Unless you're adjusting it for how you flinch?


It's not flinch. The gun actually moves from recoil before the bullet clears the barrel. That's why a .44 caliber front sight is taller than a .357 sight on an otherwise equivalent gun. The laser adjustment is biased in favor of a right handed shooter. With a lefty, the gun moves in the opposite direction, and there isn't enough adjustment.


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I have really large hands and the grips don't work for me. I have to make an adjustment in my grip in order to activate the bottom for the laser. They don't feel right, and I don't shoot well with them.

Maybe on a larger gun they'd be ok for me.


There's a larger version of the J-frame grips available. They help a bunch with .357 level recoil, too.


Thanks, I'll look into them.
 
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A word of warning if you are left handed, you may not be able to adjust it to the left enough to hit were you aim.



I'm not sure I understand this. You adjust the laser to point where the gun shoots. Once that's done, it should be right for any shooter. Which hand you hold it in should make no difference. Unless you're adjusting it for how you flinch?


It's not flinch. The gun actually moves from recoil before the bullet clears the barrel. That's why a .44 caliber front sight is taller than a .357 sight on an otherwise equivalent gun. The laser adjustment is biased in favor of a right handed shooter. With a lefty, the gun moves in the opposite direction, and there isn't enough adjustment.



That still doesn't make sense to me. The fixed sights on a J-Frame are in direct alignment with the bore of the barrel. If what you are implying is correct, the fixed sights would have to be offset at the factory. My fixed sights are dead-on, mechanically speaking, and it hits where you point it.
 
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I shoot an M&P 9, and a 642, both have a Crimson Trace laser. Once the laser is "Zeroed" to the specific gun, it doesn't matter what hand you use or what person is shooting the gun. I shoot both right and left handed and it makes no difference...the bullet still goes where the red light glows! My wife shoots both of my guns as well with the same pin-point accuracy. I can also swap my M&P grip to her gun and it is still dead-on.


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Here's some on a J and L.
Not to hard to figure out which one gets asked out the most is it?
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Smitty,

Maybe you shouldn't tote your J-frame in the same pocket in which you lug all that gravel around... Big Grin
 
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Here's some on a J and L.
Not to hard to figure out which one gets asked out the most is it?
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beaverislander:

What has caused all of that wear? Is that holster wear? What kind of holster have you been carrying the gun in?


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G/C,
I like to thing of it as "provenance"?
Actually my 342PD looks only very slightly better after 7+ years of carry 24/7. Between an ankle holster sometimes, a belt holster sometimes, a shoulder holster sometimes, a pocket holster sometimes and just being shoved into a pocket sometimes? If the gun goes everywhere I do, and is doing everything I do, I'd expect it to also look as bad, as I do?
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I'm sold on them and plan on outfitting my 638 with LG405s next week.


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I have them on our house gun, a SW Model 67, I plan to put them on the SW Model 38.
 
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Range yes.
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Now you can win a set of CT grips:

http://www.downrange.tv/giveaways-crimsontrace.htm


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Now you can win a set of CT grips:

http://www.downrange.tv/giveaways-crimsontrace.htm


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Field report on the J frame Lasermax: I like the way the laser is mounted - high on the frame and above the cylinder. I also like that you can choose from either a steady beam, or pulsed beam laser. I really like that there are ambidextrous on/off switches (the unit will automatically shut off after 30 minutes). Now the bad news...I put 100 rounds of .32H&R Magnun into a saucer sized group but the point of impact was 6 to 7 inches to the right of the point of aim. There were no adjustments that would changes this at any range from 3 yards to 15 yards. I contacted the factory and they said that it sounded like the laser was defective and I needed to return it to the factory for repair - kind of dings your confidence in the product. I'll report back once I get it back from the factory.

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Dave

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Greetings,

I have a set of CTs for my N frame - yeah, I know this thread is about J frames, but I just ordered a Lasermax for my J frame as I don't like the way the CT works on my N frame. If you assume a normal firing grip, the laser is activated. There may be situations where I want the piece in my hand, with a normal firing grip, but not want the laser activated until I'm ready to fire. It appears the Lasermax offers advantages that the CT doesn't. I will provide feedback once I've mounted the grips and field tested it.

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