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Any tips for using LSWCs in moonclips? My 625 seems to really prefer FMJ, but I really want to use LSWC. I loaded some hardcast 200gr LSWC in clips and they seem to work fine, but then I tried some Berry's 185gr and some 200gr Bear Creek moly SWCs and they seem to work fine at first, but once I shoot a few clips they hang up on loading, and have to be pushed in hard by hand. I thought it may be too much shoulder, but that would hang up when cold. I don't see any lube buildup in the chambers, and if I toss in a clip of FMJ they still work fine, even when the SWCs are binding.
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gwalchmai,
I use LSCW in my modified 1917. I just seat them so the forward driving band is nearly flush with the case mouth. |
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I've used them in my 625 without issue. I think Lionhound may be right, seat them a little deeper.
Bill NRA Life Member S&WCA #1737 |
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Are your cylinders chamfered or does it have the stock sharp edge? FMJ are going to be the best for reliability, but a lot of guys shoot lead to keep the cost down. 230 gr FMJ seem to drop in like a magnet to steel!
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I've never tried Berry's, but Bear Creek moly-coated gave me a lot of trouble. Some of the coating would build up on the lip in the cylinder, causing problems like you describe. I shot the rest of my stash of Bear Creeks in 45Colt, and only use lswc's these days, with no problems.
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I have a M625JM and I have had a lot of trouble with lead bullets and chambering. One reason is I try to load it like a revolver with the longest OAL possible. If I seat to the normal LSWC depth I have the problems you describe. Although I have noticed is very pronounced when I shoot lighter loads. If I shoot loads that don't get the case to seal off, obturate, then I have a bigger ring and soot in the chambers. A nylon brush makes it go away for the most part. If I load a little higher in the pressure range it goes away and I don't have to be so particular about the seating depth.
If your problem with loading is a time issue because of the LSWC then you need to get your chambers chamfered. That's not the problem you were describing but I thought I would throw that in there anyway. SKIP USMC 1973-1979 Born Again 1983-Eternity! .................................................................................... (John 17:17) KJV Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. The Marines don't have that problem" - Ronald Reagan Unashamedly Christian, American, Male, all three of which are currently under attack! |
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I shoot Penn Bullets Inc. 200 gr. LSWCBB Target (.452) and have had no issue on my 25-5. OAL at 1.250" max. The shoulder of the bullet is about 1/16" above the top with a crimp I believe at .459
Drop right in with a little "jiggle" now and then, but always go in without force. I don't think you should ever have to put force to load these. |
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I figured it out. I had my sizing die set to not go down all the way, so the bottom 1/8" of the case wasn't getting resized. This worked fine in my 1911s, and in my convertible Blackhawks, but apparently the 625 has tighter chambers. I ran the sizer down all the way and everything works fine now.
Thanks for the advice, guys. |
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Another question, though. Can you load .45ACP with moonclips to the same OAL and load level as .45 AR? Just curious.
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SKIP USMC 1973-1979 Born Again 1983-Eternity! .................................................................................... (John 17:17) KJV Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. The Marines don't have that problem" - Ronald Reagan Unashamedly Christian, American, Male, all three of which are currently under attack! |
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