Hey Dave,
I have tried to standardize on Fiocchi brass when possible. It is a little thicker than most and needs a factory crimp die when used with lead or bad things can happen. Like it won't chamber in some tight barrels!


As a side note. I had something ODD happen at the range this morning. I was shooting my 1911 with the HS-6 loads listed in another thread and was waiting to pick up my brass at the end of the session. One of the other shooters, who had his wife/girlfriend there, walked from one end of the range to the other and noticed a piece of brass on the ground. He stopped, picked it up and went back down by his significant other! If it wouldn't have been for making him look like a fool to her I would have brought it to his attention right then. Instead I made eye contact, shook my head and let it go.

I went down and talked to him when I was done shooting, still nothing said, not by him or I!

I'm telling you, SOME PEOPLE!

Semper Fi, Devil Dog (I was Army, but being that we both had stripes I was a Buck Sgt. - I'll still talk to you - ha ha). It never ceases to amaze me at the lack of common sense, and common decency in some people. I'm as "thrifty" (cheap) as the next reloader, but what some people do for brass just makes me shake my head. At the indoor range that I shoot at, I had one guy crawl under the barrier while others (including me) were firing just to retrieve his fired cartridge. I started calling "Check fire!" but (a) many on the line didn't know what that command meant (my fault, I reverted to training/experience instead of thinking of my audience, and (b) a lot of shooters didn't seem to notice or care. You said it best:"...Some People!"

Regards,

Dave

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Originally posted by smith crazy:
Hey Dave,
I have tried to standardize on Fiocchi brass when possible. It is a little thicker than most and needs a factory crimp die when used with lead or bad things can happen. Like it won't chamber in some tight barrels!


As a side note. I had something ODD happen at the range this morning. I was shooting my 1911 with the HS-6 loads listed in another thread and was waiting to pick up my brass at the end of the session. One of the other shooters, who had his wife/girlfriend there, walked from one end of the range to the other and noticed a piece of brass on the ground. He stopped, picked it up and went back down by his significant other! If it wouldn't have been for making him look like a fool to her I would have brought it to his attention right then. Instead I made eye contact, shook my head and let it go.

I went down and talked to him when I was done shooting, still nothing said, not by him or I!

I'm telling you, SOME PEOPLE!

As far as the Glock fired brass goes they will not resize using my Dillon dies in my 550b i.e. fit in a case gage. I ended up buying a Lee uncut sized die to resize this brass. It is undercut by .001". I talked to Lee about the problem with the Glock fired cases and was told that even though they resize with the undercut die the weakend part of the case is still there. They told me to make sure I only fire them in a gun with a fully supported barrel. I shoot these reloaded cases by the thousands out of my M&P 40 with a fully supported barrel and have never had a single problem. I do not have any problem with the Glock fired 9mm seems like only the 40s. Also most of the Glock fired cases will drop right in you barrel for checking but will not drop in to a case gage which I used to check these cases with once I have resized them.

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Originally posted by Sgt Preston:
I have about 3000, 9mm casings. ... I always discard any shells fired out of Glocks because of the "unsupported barrel issue" which allows the brass to "baloon out" & could cause a "blowout".

I've always heard that while this is true in .40 Glocks and other calibers, it is not true for the 9mm models, because the 9mm chambers fully suppot the cases. Am I wrong here?

You could be right. I had a Glock 23 that I just sold because I could not reload for it. Like I said I have never had any problems with the Glock fired cases in 9mm. I would say about 80%-90% of all the 40 cases that I buy are Glock fired cases.

mjr to the best of my knowledge all Glocks have the same design issues: An oversized "sloppy fit" chamber; unsupported barrels; the ability to fire "out of the fully closed" position. However "most" of the Kaboom issues have been with 40 calibers which have higher internal pressures. For more information GOOGLE: Glock Kaboom. I'm NOT an expert on this by any means, but there's lots to read. Sgt Preston USMC LLA

Sorry for my lack of knowledge, but isn't reloading for a Glock - unless non-casted lead bullets a big no - no?

Regards,

Dave

Double-O-Dave. You are right Glock say NO reloads. People who choose to reload for Glocks typically by new & better replacement (Barsto) barrels for their Glocks. What we have been discussing off & on is the pros & cons of using used Glock fired brass in "other" guns. Sgt Preston USMC LLA

Sgt Preston,

Thanks for your verification. I think this is one more reason people buy Sigmas.

Regards,

Dave

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Originally posted by Sgt Preston:
Double-O-Dave. You are right Glock say NO reloads. People who choose to reload for Glocks typically by new & better replacement (Barsto) barrels for their Glocks. What we have been discussing off & on is the pros & cons of using used Glock fired brass in "other" guns. Sgt Preston USMC LLA

There is some interesting information in this thread. Some I agree with and some I have a different opinion.
I shoot at an out door range where they have casual shooting plus IDPA and USPA matches every month. This has been mine and others source for range brass for years.

I clean and inspect every case I pick up and I discard Amerc also. I have loaded a ton of S&B and it does have a tighter primer pocket but it loads fine. Some guys ream out the primer pocket but I don't mess with it.

I don't load for .40 as I shoot 9mm, .38 Spl and .45 in competition but there are hundreds of Glock shooters here and very few are not shooting reloads. I have never heard any of the .40 cal shooters express any problems with cases shot from a Glock .40 but I do know years ago there were some problems with bulged cases.

We are always talking about various loads at the matches and never heard anyone say anything about the .40 case problem. I am going to make it a point to ask some of the guys that load a lot of .40 caliber to see what they have experienced.

I really don't worry how much the brass has been shot. I clean it and check it for cracks,splits,dents or poor condition and if none of those things are present I load it.

If I had to buy new brass, I would only be shooting a .22.