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I have just gotten a new, unfired 25-2, early 70's vintage. I plan to put at least 100 rounds of jacketed factory ammo through it before I start using my handloads, but want to ask if any of you load any differently for the M25 than you do for your .45 autos. It seems like I've seen where a lot of folks are using heavier bullets in their 25's. I usually load 200 gr LSWC's over 3.8 gr of Clays. I suspect the 25 is capable of safely handling hotter loads than the average 1911, but I don't have much interest in abusing the gun or myself. Still, it would be interesting to know how hot a load the 25 will safely stand.
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I suggest your SAAMI .45 ACP loads for semi-autos are suitable for the Model 25, but I also suggest you make no assumptions for its ability to shoot proof loads as steady fare. (Proof loads are 25% overloads)
While it may not blow up, it will surely shoot loose. If you want to shoot hotter loads than available in .45 ACP, you might be interested in a .44 magnum or a .500 S&W. It would be a shame to ruin a fine old revolver with overloads. |
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As stated, I have no interest in abusing the gun or my hand. Just curious. I presume the the ACP should be able to be loaded up to the same velocity level as the .45 Colt. Those who shoot the M625 seem to be able to use some very hot loads, but I am unsure why the 6 series gun would be perceived to be stronger.
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1. I use the same loads in my 25-2 that I do in my M1911s, namely 3.8-4.0gr. of Bullseye and a 200gr. hardcast LSWC. 2. Don't confuse the 25-2 with the Ruger Redhawk. It's made for accuracy, not max loads. Use the SAME loads you'd use in an M1911, NOT hotter ones. 3. Penn makes a 225gr. full wadcutter that should work very well in the 25-2. I have a box of them that I haven't tried yet. Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists. |
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The nice thing about the 25-2 is that you can use heavier bullets than in a M1911. One of my favorites is a cast 250 grain bullet with 6.0 grains of Unique in a .45 Auto Rim case.
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TheM25 was a target gun pure and simple... I have no doubt it will digets standard .45acp loads... but the best results will be obtained with the 200 gr target loads...
FWIW Chuck
Hoist On High the Bonnie Blue Flag That Bears the Single Star!!! |
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That's really what I was getting at. Seems a lot of posts I've read indicate that M25 shooters seem to favor heavier bullets than those usually used in the 1911. I usually load my 1911 rounds with 200 gr. LSWC's. |
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Sir, I could be mistaken (wouldn't be the first time), but my perception is that most of the folks shooting heavy bullets in their Smith .45 ACP revolvers are doing so with 625 and 325 variants, rather than 25-2s, and they're doing so for defensive purposes rather than for pure target shooting accuracy. My own 25-2 prints pretty high at 25 yards with 230 ball, and I'd think it would print even higher with a heavier bullet. This is with the rear sight bottomed out. My next step with this particular gun is to see how it behaves with 200-grain semi-wadcutters. JMHO, FWIW. Hope this helps, and Semper Fi. Ron H. _________________________________________ "I'm fully dressed, and I can't see a damn thing." |
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Can't disagree. My 25-2 shoots one-hole groups at 25 yards with my bullseye load of a 200gr SWC and 3.6 grains of Bullseye.
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I feed my 25-2 Hornady 200 grain full metal encapsulated swc, (even the base is covered by the jacket). As Ron H. pointed out above, those loading heavier bullets see to be interested in things other than paper punching. That's what the magnums do best.
Big bang, much smash'em. |
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Finally got a chance to shoot the 25-2 today. As noted above, it shoots high with factory ball ammo. With my rabbit-fart loads, and the rear sight bottomed out, it's still a little high at 50', but may be ok at 25 yards. The reloads are very pleasant to shoot and very accurate. The ball was also very accurate, but had POI vs POA issues.
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I have read reports that a 25-2 will not shoot lead accurately due to shallow rifleing. I would like to hear comparisons. I have both fmj and lead reloaded waiting for an opporunity to shoot.The 25-2 is a first class firearm in my opinion.
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My 25-2 shoots lead 200 grain SWC just fine. Off a bench, I can knock the X ring out of a standard NRA B-8 target at 25 yards. Wish I could do it offhand...
Can't say for sure how it shoots with jacketed bullets since I don't shoot them. My only .45 that gets jacketed bullets is my hardball pistol. |
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Based on my very limited observation today, (50 rounds of lead) they shoot lead just fine. |
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I have two 25-2's. One is equipped with the Weigand Interchangeable front sight base so I can use a high front sight blade to shoot heavy bullets and print groups dead center.
Additionally, I like shooting heavy bullets in mine just for the pleasure of it and not for defense purposes. |
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