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I picked up 100 rounds of reloaded 44 spl. from a garage sale. 245gr. swc over 6.0 gr. 231. Seller said it was a fine load. When I got home and checked my data it indicated a max. of 5.6gr. for 231. Can I use this in a 44 mag. instead of my M24 or should I pull the bullets and reload? Thanks, Joe.
 
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I always purchase such items for the price of the brass. Personally I would not shoot it in the Model 24.
 
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Personally, I wouldn't shoot these in anything. The problem isn't the particular load, it's the lack of provenance for them. I won't shoot anyone else's reloads in my guns, period.
 
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It might have been a fine load but he could have also been shooting them out of a T/C or a .445 revolver. And while they might be O.K. to shoot out of a .44 mag., you don't know for sure what is in them, I would pull and reload without question.
 
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Unless you pull and measure the bullet, you can't even be sure what diameter THEY are?
Don't take the chance.....
 
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"handloads are like underwear .... be careful who you swap with"

don't recall where I read that one, I think it might be someones tag line in here.


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The special is so underloaded it's terrible. I use a standard load that's significantly hotter than the max in my data. That said...IT'S MY LOAD, WORKED UP BY ME, IN MY MODERN 44. Have to agree with others here: dump the powder.
 
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+1 on the pull 'em and re-charge.

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About 15 years ago I was shooting at the Range in Orange County Ca (right behind MCAS El Toro).

I had a guy give me a hundred rounds of freshly loaded 44 Mag ammo. He had loaded them up and they wouldn't feed reliably in his Desert Eagle.

What he didn't know was that some of the regular shooters there had given him the nickname "HeadStamp Eraser".

He loaded his ammo so hot that the headstamp would smudge because of the excess pressure.

I took his ammo (notoriuos scrounger that I am)and broke it down for the lead and brass.

Someone that didn't know this cats loads were unsat could've destroyed their gun or hurt themselves.

As a rule, I will not shoot handloads of unknown origin.

My advice is to break them down for the powder and lead.
 
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I understand the opinions of those posters previous to mine. I would concur with only one exception.

If I knew the handloader I wouldn't pull a single round. I shoot them as if I had bought store bought ammo and hope for the best.

Notice my qualifier, "IF I KNEW THE HANDLOADER"!
My short list:
Isaiah (my son)
Erich
NKJ nut
Paul5388
Vonfatman
Sgt. Preston
pinkymingeo
Dale53
38-44HD45
Forester
ArchAngel
Rozenbem (Hoptob)
walnutred
Erich B. (I shoot with him on Thursdays)
Jerry T. (I shoot with him on Thursdays)

There are others but, you know how it is when you have those "senior moments". Big Grin

p.s. I hope you folks get my drift.

p.p.s. I forgot CXM in my list! Sorry Chuck!


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Do you have a Ruger you can shoot them in? That way if it blows up from a double charge, you won't feel so bad, provided all the shrapnel misses you.


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Thanks for the vote of confidence, Skip! Obviously, you've not shot any of my "special" loads... Wink

Seriously, good advice above. Duke Venturino has an article in the last AH concerning "blowed-up guns," and makes the comment that he personally knows of no gun blown up by factory ammo; it's all been reloads. Well, I've recently seen a spontaneously randomly disassembled Rock River AR after a commercial reload from a fair sized factory blew it up. Otherwise, my experience has been the same, save for a couple of Glock .357 Sigs that blew with factory loads. (And one could argue that the AR kaboom was a reload, even though it came from a "factory," and the Glocks failed due to gun problems, not overloaded ammo.) I've defended some lawsuits where plaintiffs claimed that factory ammo broke their guns, but in all cases, we've shown that the failures were due to either reloads, intentional acts, gun defects, or two or more of the above.

I just won't shoot reloads of unknown origin, and my short list is probably shorter than Skip's.
 
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Thanks for the vote of confidence, Skip! Obviously, you've not shot any of my "special" loads... Wink


I'd just make sure I shot your "special" loads in MAGNUM handguns! Wink


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Personally, I wouldn't shoot these in anything. The problem isn't the particular load, it's the lack of provenance for them. I won't shoot anyone else's reloads in my guns, period.


+ Infinity........You simply do not know how these rounds were loaded. You simply have a story, and that's about it. Pull the bullets and start from square one.........You won't have to sweat that first round KABOOOOM!
 
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Thanks for the vote of confidence, Skip! Obviously, you've not shot any of my "special" loads... Wink

Seriously, good advice above. Duke Venturino has an article in the last AH concerning "blowed-up guns," and makes the comment that he personally knows of no gun blown up by factory ammo; it's all been reloads. Well, I've recently seen a spontaneously randomly disassembled Rock River AR after a commercial reload from a fair sized factory blew it up. Otherwise, my experience has been the same, save for a couple of Glock .357 Sigs that blew with factory loads. (And one could argue that the AR kaboom was a reload, even though it came from a "factory," and the Glocks failed due to gun problems, not overloaded ammo.) I've defended some lawsuits where plaintiffs claimed that factory ammo broke their guns, but in all cases, we've shown that the failures were due to either reloads, intentional acts, gun defects, or two or more of the above.

I just won't shoot reloads of unknown origin, and my short list is probably shorter than Skip's.


Hi Councilor, back in, I believe, 1977 the cylinder of my 44mag Ruger Super Blackhawk fractured while firing Federal American Eagle 240gr. JSPs. I had fired about 70 rounds when I discovered a full length crack centered at the thinest section of a chargehole. At the time I did notice one round appeared to provide a bit more recoil than what I thought was normal. This handgun was pretty new at the time, and did not have too many rounds through it. For the $60.00 it cost to have a new cylinder fitted I did not attempt to make the ammo manufacturer pay, it was not worth the trouble. After all, it could have been a flawed cylinder from Ruger.
I did write Federal a letter describing the occurence as a responsible shooter should. They sent me a thank you form letter as a manufacturer should.

Kind
 
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