I personally like it even though it's dirty stuff. I've heard that the steel cases may damage ejectors but haven't had any bad luck yet with any of my guns. Last week I shot some .45 Magtech and Wolf, 15 rounds each. Had 4 FTE with the Magtech and no problems with the Wolf. I don't want to wear my gun parts out, but with the price of ammo now, I have to look for deals. Thanks for the input.

Dave

Last time I was at the range, a Wolf Classic 9x18 primer failed to fire, though I struck it repeatedly with a strong Makarov hammer.

I've not had problems shooting Wolf over the years . . . but I tend to try to shoot it mostly in Iron Curtain guns.

My M&P's and 3rd gen autos eat it up. Glocks too!

I get it that some guns don't like certain ammo, and I know going in Wolf and other 'economy' brands run dirty, but heck, the backstop or dirt berm doesn't care what I use. Surprisingly, or not, it's just as accurate as any other economy factory load.

Wolf, mainly because of price enabled me to prchase more and subsequently practice more. What's wrong about that.

Also the only way it's any harder on an extractor is if you drop the slide on a loaded chamber. As most of you know, you always load one in the chamber from one loaded in the magazine.

When the round is pushed forward by the slide and moves up the feedramp, the lip of the case slides under the extractor, preventing any undo stress on the extractor.

I say, If your gun doesn't mind, your backstop won't care. Shoot whatever gives you the most (OK, here it comes....) Bang! for the buck.

Jimmy

Of the people taking my NRA classes, it has caused more problems than any other ammo. For no apparent reason, sometimes a case will stick in the chamber. Some shooters have zero problems with it; some guns just don't tolerate it.
Why? I have no idea.

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Last time I was at the range, a Wolf Classic 9x18 primer failed to fire, though I struck it repeatedly with a strong Makarov hammer.

Thanks guys. That's about what I figured. I tried a lighter spring in my FEG shooting 9x18 once and had some FTF, but that was the only time. I have had "0" problems myself with all calibers. I wish I could get American rounds as cheap as Wolf, but can't so I go with the flow...and fun making holes.

Dave

I never got the 9mm to work in my Glk 19.
Worked fine in my Para P16. P 14 OK. Used
40 early non poly coated cases in my XD Tact.
After about a case plus 800 rnds, it just stopped working. XD was clean. Cleaned and same thing. I even switched my XD's. Same. Contacted
Wolf and they sent me about 200 rnds of the new
poly coated cases. Worked ok, but I could not
trust them for matches. Never bought any since,
40 does not work in SW 40 cal revolver. Cases
stick like H--l. Good luck

I've never shot it but the manual for my Marlin 1894 .45 Colt states to not use steel cased ammo.

R-

We used to see a lot of it at the range. In the Eastern European or Russian guns it seems to do just fine. I've also seen it break the extractors on quite a few guns. Sigs seem to be the most prone to this, though I could not tell you why. Could be coincidence. I don't shoot it in my guns, but it wouldn't bother me in a Makarov or the like.

The early, lacquered case stuff is sticky as hell, and will crud up a chamber quickly. I had a bunch of it in .223, and especially in hot weather, it would malfunction horribly from the sticky cases, both sticking in the chamber and hanging up in feeding from the magazines of my ARs. Never had a problem with it in 7.62 Russian. I've shot some of the 9x19 and .45, and it is nasty, or at least the production from a few years back was. I have some later, polymer coated .223, and it feeds slickly.

So 38/44, Erich and all.
Your saying they've updated the coatings on the stuff, while maintaining the same component materials under it, correct?

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Originally posted by Spotteddog:
So 38/44, Erich and all.
Your saying they've updated the coatings on the stuff, while maintaining the same component materials under it, correct?

As far as I know, yes. The only polymer coated Wolf I presently have is .223, as I quit buying any of their pistol ammo a long time ago. I have some steel-shooting friends who go through many thousands of rounds of the poly-coated 9mm and swear by it, though. As to whether they have changed powders, I couldn't say. However, the few CHL students who have shown up with it in my classes (in 9mm and .45 ACP) have had no problems with it, and it doesn't seem to smell as bad as the old stuff.

Wolf has definately made some improvements. I shot some last weekend for the first time in a couple of years and was fairly pleased with it. In my Hi Power it grouped better than Blazer did.

I have a little bit of experience with Wolf in 7.62x39 and 9mm and .223 when it had the red lacquer sealant.

It shoots OK, but when I shot up the 9mm and .223 I never bought any more.

I hear that the polymer coated version is OK as well. I still have 500 rounds of 7.62x39 for my SKS and I have no reservations about shooting it.

No, because I have never used it. To each his own, but I think steel case semi-auto handgun ammo is a bad idea. I'll spend a little more and get something with a brass case.

Put 50 rounds through my 625 JM. Three rounds had to be cycled twice and they still did not go off. The primers were struck hard. Also, one empty case split down the side. I noticed this as I took the cases out of the moon clip. I would not use it again.