I've heard nothing. Since Mr. Cirillo's untimely death, I've lost some hope, but not all hope, for seeing the ammo again. (Helluva note; guy survives more gunfights than they had on all the shows of every season of Miami Vice, and gets killed in a truck wreck.)
I need to talk to Fuzzy Fletcher and see what the status might be. What I do not know is whether Fuzzy owns all the rights to the patent, if there is one, or if Jim Cirillo owned part of it. If the latter is true, then it may take some time to sort out the estate. Fuzzy, if you are out there, please chime in. Inquiring minds want to know...
Posts: 4434 | Location: Lubbock, TX, US | Registered: 20 May 2004
Thanks, Tim, for the heads-up. I'll try to contact Fuzzy today or tomorrow. Now, here's what we need: Every one of you folks who would buy some SafeStop if Buffalo Bore picked it up, chime in and post here, soon.
Posts: 4434 | Location: Lubbock, TX, US | Registered: 20 May 2004
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMME I would be buying CASES of .38s,with the V notches guys were talking a ONE INCH FLAT SPREAD as opposed to a half inch or so rounded mushroom!!!! Great stuff by a great guy.!!!!!!!
Buy Buffalo Bore ammunition with SafeStop bullets?
Most definitely YES.
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Originally posted by stocklt: MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMME I would be buying CASES of .38s,with the V notches guys were talking a ONE INCH FLAT SPREAD as opposed to a half inch or so rounded mushroom!!!! Great stuff by a great guy.!!!!!!!
Actually, Tim, the bullets Fuzzy was making didn't mushroom. Two little wedges, each weighing about 22 grains, would break off and spin off the axis of the primary wound channel, leaving the remaining 100+ grain core to penetrate deeply. What you are describing would be more consistent with what I'd expect a much softer bullet to do. Me, I like the fragmentation just fine!
Posts: 4434 | Location: Lubbock, TX, US | Registered: 20 May 2004
If they offer cylindrical wadcutter-style Cirillo bullets that expand into a rectangle as seen in Guns, Bullets and Gunfights you can count me in. If there's such a bullet in .44 magnum with out it being stupidly heavy I'm double in. If it's a deep penetrating bullet that has controlled fragmentation then I'm highly interested. I place a great deal of value on what Jim thought and think he was probably the greatest handgun bullet designer of all time. He litterally got to design bullets, use them to "take out the trash", and then attend the post mortems. That's experience just about no one has, or has ever had. Plus he was soundly rooted in good tactics. It would be a shame to have his revolutionary ideas not come to fruition.
Don't carry a gun because of what may happen today. Carry because once, just once, and at the least likely time imaginable, you may run into the worst monster you ever could imagine. Be their worst nightmare and resist them with all the stubbornness that our pioneer ancestors posessed. To do less is to be unamerican.
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Actually, Tim, the bullets Fuzzy was making didn't mushroom. Two little wedges, each weighing about 22 grains, would break off and spin off the axis of the primary wound channel, leaving the remaining 100+ grain core to penetrate deeply. What you are describing would be more consistent with what I'd expect a much softer bullet to do. Me, I like the fragmentation just fine!
