nitesite,

Are you absolutely sure of your chrono???...I'm not saying the figures are wrong but they're very high.

1683 with a 125 jhp from a six inch revolver is beyond anything that I've seen even with pedal to the metal HOT handloads from old data that has been downloaded considerably in recent years.

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket but I'd try to get confirmation from another chrono and preferably not a cheapie.

I concede that it seems awfully fast, much faster than expected. I was very surprised when I got substantially higher numbers when I shot it thru the 6" gun. That's why I posted this, because it was so much faster than what I saw on Remington's site using a 4" vented test barrel.

In my defense, another member of this forum (JohnK ~ seventh post down on the first page) who chrono'd his got 1627-fps.

I'm sorry that I do not have access to another chrono more expensive than mine.

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nitesite,

I wasn't trying to be a smartass and hope it didn't come across that way.

A few years ago I was trying handloads in a 458 win mag that data indicated should be giving around 2100 fps with a 500 gr bullet.

The chrono indicated over 2200 fps (and I knew it had to be wrong).This particular chrono had,in the past been accurate.The less expensive chrono's can develope glitches all of a sudden.

Later,the same load and rifle proved to average around 2075 fps when checked with a better chronograph.

Raym~

You could very well be onto something.

I appreciate your input and took no offense.

I doubt Nitesite is off by much if he is. I remember a post by a forum member (I wish I remember who) a couple of months ago or so who was shooting .357 125gr. Gold Dots and getting 1600 fps. from a 6" 686. Nitesite was using a Ruger. Don't Rugers tend to shoot fast? It seems that the Remington's, federals and Gold Dots are pushed to the screaming edge of what can be safely done with a 125 gr. .357. Also velocity will vary from lot to lot since manufacturers load to pressure not velocity. Perhaps Nitesite got a faster lot of ammo. If Raym is right that wouldn't surprise me in the least either.

Thanks, flop-shank.

This has been a very enjoyable thread and I thank every member who has either read it or contributed to it.

I think that raym had brought up a valid point and I cannot fault his very reasonable suspicions. If he's correct, I'm not the worse for making my claim.

However, it seems that several members here have been able to duplicate the 4" test barrel velocities that Remington claims, only in their actual 4" revolvers. Surely an extra two inches of barrel length should jump the speed into the mid-1500s.

I think it's possible that this ammo in some 6" revolvers just might exceed 1600-fps. I do recall reading several claims that Rugers (for whatever reason) seem to shoot faster than other makes of guns.

Then again, I could be full of crap. My wife tells me that all the time.

But she's a bitch and I hate her...

I love you guys.

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Nitesite, I sure hope your wife doesn't read that last post!

Again, anybody check this load for flash?

I could get a time-exposure photo of shooting it in a 4" (taken at dusk) if that might help you.

That's a lot of trouble to go to, but it would be pretty cool to see!

S&W 66-6, 4" barrel.
Remington 125 gr SJHP .357 Mag cat# L357M1B, 100 rd value pack purchased at Walmart last year.

1442 fps avg of 10 rds, chrono 10' from muzzle.

quote:

Originally posted by 38-44HD45:
That's a lot of trouble to go to, but it would be pretty cool to see!

Here you go!

These images are pushed with higher brightness and saturation than the original in an effort to show the maximum fireball.

4" Model 686. Post processing the digital image allows the sky and flash to appear brighter than they actually were to the naked eye. I was not aware of any "blinding" or alarming flash. Any flash I perceived was not enough to cause any momentary disorientation.





Camera make: Canon
Camera model: Canon EOS 30D
Date/Time: 2007:11:01 18:24:17
Flash used: No
Exposure time: 1.000 s
Aperture: f/5.6
ISO equiv.: 400
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: spot
Exposure: Manual


This has been a really fun thread to participate in!

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I first tried Remington 125 grainers in the mid '90s in my then new Taurus 605 .357. The flash consisted of a fire ball approximately two feet long, even in broad daylight. It was so bad you would almost expect to incinerate your adversary. I haven't noticed this of late. Remington, no doubt, switched to a flash suppressed powder since the mid '90s.

This is a very interesting thread. I've been giving some thought to ordering some Double Tap 125 Gold Dots. Mr McNett lists these as 1700 fps from a 6 inch 686. I really want to put 'em to a chrono and see how that comes out in the real world. That's very near rifle-like drop when these bullets get into the 1650-1700 range.

I should mention that the color saturation was increased in both those photos, in order for you to better see the total size of the "fireball". It was actually barely noticeable from behind the gun.

Here are the pics before post-processing:

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Groo here
The Sp 101 is a 2in dao.
The gun was setup to shoot only magnums
with porting, a gold front sight,
action job, and CT laser grips{ the new ones}
I will be shooting heaver weight bullets
this next year.
The 125s are my carry load and will be used in
my Marlin rifle if the need appear.