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Just a quick question. I have some Winchester Jacketed Soft Point in 357, will use in a polygonal barrel. Do using these rounds risk fouling the barrel with lead?

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What you'll see in the barrel will be either powder or copper fouling, but it WON'T be lead.
 
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The only jacketed ammo I have heard of that could lead foul was some of the old half jacketed swaged bullets. They actually had lead touching the bore and were typically very soft lead.
 
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Here's a pic of the same round. I wondered, because of the large tip of exposed lead, that it might rub off on the bore. So you all don't think so?

http://www.tirito.com.ar/Venta/Vainas%20y%20Municiones/...mag_Win_158grJSP.jpg
 
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No.
The only part that will touch the rifling will be the gilding copper. The amount of engagement in the rifling is amazingly shallow. If you ever can find a relatively intact bullet after being fired, you'll see what I mean.
 
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I agree ther's no chance of fouling with that JSP. For the O.P. what firearm do you have in .357 Mag with a polygonal rifling ?
I can't think of any. The Marlin 1894 Coboy
has the outer octagonal barrel but the rifling
is the old ballard style built for cast bullets ( the .45 Colt 1894 also has this rifling but not the .44 Mag AFAIK. ).

I have a box of PMC .357 Mag 158 gr. JSPs I've
been saving for no real reason except I don't enjoy shooting full house loads in my 686P with a 4" barrel

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Originally posted by BlindJustice:
I agree ther's no chance of fouling with that JSP. For the O.P. what firearm do you have in .357 Mag with a polygonal rifling ?
I can't think of any. The Marlin 1894 Coboy
has the outer octagonal barrel but the rifling
is the old ballard style built for cast bullets ( the .45 Colt 1894 also has this rifling but not the .44 Mag AFAIK. ).

I have a box of PMC .357 Mag 158 gr. JSPs I've
been saving for no real reason except I don't enjoy shooting full house loads in my 686P with a 4" barrel

Randall


I have a 327 TRR8. It does have the polygonal shroud, and I was under the impression that it also has polygonal rifling. Am I incorrect? Incidentally, just got back from the range with my son, shot the 327 for the every first time, 38's and those 357's. We had a blast, but I think we'd like to join an outdoor range/club.
 
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Originally posted by BlindJustice:
I agree ther's no chance of fouling with that JSP. For the O.P. what firearm do you have in .357 Mag with a polygonal rifling ?
I can't think of any. The Marlin 1894 Coboy
has the outer octagonal barrel but the rifling
is the old ballard style built for cast bullets ( the .45 Colt 1894 also has this rifling but not the .44 Mag AFAIK. ).

I have a box of PMC .357 Mag 158 gr. JSPs I've
been saving for no real reason except I don't enjoy shooting full house loads in my 686P with a 4" barrel

Randall


I have a 327 TRR8. It does have the polygonal shroud, and I was under the impression that it also has polygonal rifling. Am I incorrect? Incidentally, just got back from the range with my son, shot the 327 for the every first time, 38's and those 357's. We had a blast, but I think we'd like to join an outdoor range/club.


No. Smith and Wesson's are traditional rifling. Even if you shoot lead bullets (which I am beginning to prefer over jacketed) leadding is easily cleaned with a "Lewis Lead Removal Kit" or with a copper "Chore Boy" wrapped around a brass brush.

You may consider reloading (save your brass now) because you will want to keep your revolver well fed. Smiler


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Thanks for the info. I did read that the gun had polygonal rifling, here, at the bottom of the second page:
http://www.atncorp.com/i/expert_opinion/tacrevolver_1.pdf

I think I may take a look at the Lewis stuff.
 
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Here is another reference to the polygonal rifling from the Smith & Wesson site:

http://209.85.215.104/search?q=cache:ssvTydf_CZ8J:www.s...&gl=us&client=safari
 
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Originally posted by tobar8:
Here is another reference to the polygonal rifling from the Smith & Wesson site:

http://209.85.215.104/search?q=cache:ssvTydf_CZ8J:www.s...&gl=us&client=safari


You are right, I stand corrected. With the polygonal, just make sure you clean the lead out before switching back to jacketed. With the jacketed soft points there is still no worry about leading.


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Hmmm?
Wonder why the Hell they did that?
Thanks for teaching an old dog, a new trick Tobar!
 
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Hmmm?
Wonder why the Hell they did that?
Thanks for teaching an old dog, a new trick Tobar!


Being a newb, I have no idea. What are the pros and cons of polygonal rifling? Don't Glocks use it too?
 
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Originally posted by Spotteddog:
Hmmm?
Wonder why the Hell they did that?
Thanks for teaching an old dog, a new trick Tobar!


Being a newb, I have no idea. What are the pros and cons of polygonal rifling? Don't Glocks use it too?


Not wanting to hijack your thread, I posted this question over in the lounge yesterday.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/500103904/m/9261002613


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