Found this ammo last week, box dated Aug 1989. I knew they made these but had not seen any for sale that I recall. IIRC they also made it in .357 with 3 buckshot, but I might be wrong about that. I wonder if you mixed them with some high power rounds if recoil could pull that first buckshot loose, like happends sometime in mixing regular loads and snakeshot? Tell me what you know, thanks...

I have that same load in .357 Magnum. I think I bought them back in 1991. I never tried them with other full power loads, but they looked crimped enough to stay put.

It's a fun load to shoot. IIRC, the two balls were approx. 2" apart at 7 yards. I always thought this would be a great defense load, but everything I've read says they aren't.

Me personally, I can't see how a double tap, producing 4 holes in a little over one second could be a bad thing.

Something similar, but loaded with three buckshot pellets, is currently being sold loaded by Armscor. Centerfire Systems has them advertised, FWIW.

Red, I'm thinking penetration might be an issue with those rounds. The idea is great.

Be hard to shoot'em between the eyes with that ammo

We stocked that 20 years ago when I managed a gun store. Stuff never really sold all that well. Doesn't chrono too hot, either.

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Originally posted by Cocked & Locked:
Be hard to shoot'em between the eyes with that ammo

True but if you get it just right you might hit both eyes with one shot! LOL

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Doesn't chrono too hot, either.

I was thinking they would be relatively slow, then I got to wondering how they would chronograph at all? It would seem that two projectiles close behind each other would throw the machine off. Maybe it would just measure the second one that came thru. My feeble brain is having a hard time wrapping around that question.

I remember seeing it back when it was available. Never bought any. Was not a great seller for Rem.

I made my own in .32, .38, .41, .44 and .45 calibers. They aren't all that bad, but they aren't all that great either.

I'd think that, while it would expensive to set up, one could arrive at a calculation of the velocity of the projectiles by relying on high speed photography.

Double Tap offers a 10mm double projectile loading, so perhaps an email to them would elicit a response regarding how they were able to measure the velocities that they claim for it.

Stiab,

I think that they just go through more or less together - like a big long arrow's flight (which is actually crossing the second electric eye as it's still crossing the first), I think the first one through trips both electric eyes one at a time as it passes. We did chrono some back in the late '80s (through one of those absurd first-gen Chronys with the little cardboard cut-out aiming points) and never had any problems with doing so.

Anyhow, that's how I'm guessing it worked: the first one tripped each electric eye. I don't think the balls were very separated at that point.

Thanks for the info guys, believe I'll pattern a couple at 7 yards, but not bother to chrono them. Thanks again...

One things sure, no matter which projectile trips the timer, the other one is going to me going very near the same speed? The S/D might be dramatic between the two if they'd been playing tag in the forcing cone or barrel, perhaps getting flat spots in the process.

They were developed for women so they could shoot off both gonads with one shot!