Grinder is most knowledgable of S&W Performance Center Pistols and pictures of his collection keep me in the search for some of them. If he ever puts one up for sale that you want, don't hesitate to say, "I'll take it"; otherwise, you will regret it. Not only is he knowledgable of the history and features of a model, his price will be fair and the description accurate. Dealing with Grinder will be like his posts and pictures on the forum; very smooth and you will not be disappointed.