Colt R-6420

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i mentioned this carbine in another thread and I thought I would post these pictures for any Colt AR fans in the house. The official name is the Colt Sporter II Carbine, R-6420 and it is an odd mix of Sporter (SP-1) features and A2 features. A1 rear sight, standard barrel w/ 1/7" twist and round carbine hand guard, tear drop forward assist, no full case deflector, A2 pistol grip, A2 muzzle brake, slab side mag well, two position collapsible stock, green label. When I first saw the gun several years ago I advised my friend to leave it alone because I thought it was a put together parts gun. He bought it any way. After talking with Colt's customer service we determined what it is and I ended up with it. Colt, like S&W, doesn't throw anything away and this model is the result of that policy. A hard to find example of what I consider to be a transitional long gun of that period of the AR development.
 

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AR-15's and 1911's are just Legos for grown ups! When I build 1911's, I found a small stash of the WWI beaver tail hammers, I kept them all for my personal use! I went through a phase of Commander hammers, but I found I liked the beaver tails much better.

I'm just learning my way around an AR. The SP-1 butt stock is an inch shorter than an A-2, great for winter clothing or shot framed people, The multi position carbine stock does all that and then some, but I haven't enjoyed prone shooting with any of them! I have yet to need a foreword assist, but I find it a nice idea. Is there any real difference to a round button vs a tear drop? I prefer the round A2 hand guard to the SP-1 triangle!

Ivan
 
The tear drop FA did not last very long. I have never HAD to use a FA on an M-16 or AR-15, but they continue to put them on.

i like the wider hammers on a 1911 as well.
 
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I still prefer the classic M16/M16A1 features.

The M16A2 handguard is too big around to provide good control, and the later M16A2 barrel added excess weight and destroyed the superb balance of the earlier M16 and M16A1.


I also prefer the simplicity and ruggedness of the A1 carry handle sight (some variants of the sight anyway). The carry handle sights are durable, and putting your chin on the stock and shooting over the top of the carry handle with both eyes open is surprisingly effective in night conditions.

The original sight with the long and short range aperture was ideal for use in the field. With the short range sight zeroed at 250m the long range aperture was zeroed at 375m.

You used the short range aperture for 0-300m basically holding center of mass. The long range aperture worked great for center of mass shots from 350m-400m.

The forward assist was not all that useful. You could press the bolt forward to ensure it was fully in battery by pressing on the forward curve of the relief cut in the bolt carrier. That was handy if you had eased the bolt forward slowly and quietly with the charging handle. Realistically if you had to pound a bolt forward with the forward assist you had far bigger problems.

I did like the fence around the magazine release knob as it did help protect it.

The 3x and 4x Colt scopes also worked quite well on the A1 carry handle. Magnification was low enough that parallax was not an issue. The BDC worked well but you could just leave it as 300m and be done with it for most practical purposes.

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I also like the 9mm Colt carbines like the 6450:

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Love the old Ponies.


I bought this 6520 from a local Gun Show a few years ago and to this day it my favorite AR in my stable, the crappy thing is the Table I bought this at the guy had 2 of them and I am still kicking myself for not buying the other one...

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A1 was the only new equipment the Army ever issued me, new in the crate from Colt to Ft. Campbell took it out of the crate myself . By the time I left Nam in Dec. 1968 it looked almost nickel because I rubbed all the black off. Never let me down and was accurate.
 
The 6520 I have was made during the Clinton AWB and it is marked RESTRICTED.... Great carbine but my favorite Colt AR is my R6550. What BB57 said about the balance of the A2 with it's strange, in my mind, barrel profile is true because of the additional weight forward. The ONLY problem I have with Colt is the company listened to William Bennet too much back then.
 
My favorite AR is a 6720 upper, by a long distance. That feels most balanced and carbine like in my hands. The 6520 likely has much of that utilitarian feel and inherent shootability.

I had some limited time with A1 uppers in the Guard. By my time there seemed to be an occasional mixmaster A2 uppers and A1 lower in support units. I did not know enough back then to take pictures or detail what I was seeing, but the giggle switch, silvery wear and the various grey shades made them easy to recall. The thin barrel balance just made carrying so much easier and aside from a bit more stability from a heavier barrel, the A2 barrel never changed qualification scores for me.

To date myself, I recall running into an MP unit at Fort Lewis that had just got issued the M4 carbine (all A2 features) because they were some rapid deployment force. Having an M4 was very hot and elite then, so asked to play around with them. I recall being not too impressed, as the stock wobble was terrible and the while shorter than the A2 musket, the heavy barrel balance was still terrible.
 
My favorite AR is a 6720 upper, by a long distance. That feels most balanced and carbine like in my hands. The 6520 likely has much of that utilitarian feel and inherent shootability.

I had some limited time with A1 uppers in the Guard. By my time there seemed to be an occasional mixmaster A2 uppers and A1 lower in support units. I did not know enough back then to take pictures or detail what I was seeing, but the giggle switch, silvery wear and the various grey shades made them easy to recall. The thin barrel balance just made carrying so much easier and aside from a bit more stability from a heavier barrel, the A2 barrel never changed qualification scores for me.

To date myself, I recall running into an MP unit at Fort Lewis that had just got issued the M4 carbine (all A2 features) because they were some rapid deployment force. Having an M4 was very hot and elite then, so asked to play around with them. I recall being not too impressed, as the stock wobble was terrible and the while shorter than the A2 musket, the heavy barrel balance was still terrible.

My initial training experiences in with the M16 included XM-16s and M16E1s that had been updated to the M16A1 standard (or as close as they could get to it, since you can't do some things like adding the mag release fence to an older receiver).

I suspect some of those rifles would have had some interesting stories of they could talk.

I was USMC reserve and in the PLC track, but without an active reserve unit near my college, so the USMC had me take Army ROTC. Since I could also fit it in, they had me go to the Army Officer Basic course as well. It was...well...interesting. There were big differences in how they train officers to lead and think. The marksmanship training was also significantly different.

In addition to the normal PLC related training, I'd also shot small bore and service rifle competition a couple years before attending the US Army Basic course, on top of growing up on a ranch and shooting prairie dogs since I was 6. Consequently, I knew how to shoot.

However, the M16A1 (actually built on an XM-16 lower receiver) the US Army had issued me would not reliably extract, with the result that I could not zero it. I was recycled into another relay and was issued a different M16A1 (this one built on an M16E1 lower receiver).

Unfortunately, it had apparently been used to open a crate or some similar use (the only thing in my opinion the M16A2 did better than the A1) in the past as the barrel was bent. Even with full left windage applied it was still shooting a couple inches right at 25 meters. I debated just using some Kentucky windage to "zero", but I did not want to stuck with that *** for the rest of the course. As I more or less anticipated the sergeant in charge ignored the fact that while the group was a couple inches right of target, it was a one hole group and decided as a two time loser on his range, I must be the problem.

As a two time loser I was cycled through their "weaponeer" training device. It was an mock up of a M16A1 firing a laser with a stick connected to the muzzle to simulate recoil. On the operators screen you could see where the laser was pointing while the shooter aimed the shot, and then a permanent dot would appear on the target when the shooter "fired". I spent about 60 minutes in line watching shooter after shooter take their turn, with the laser jumping all over the operators screen with commensurately horrible groups. Sometimes getting marginally less bad as they tried to coach them to a point they could potentially keep 5 out of 6 shots inside a 4 cm circle at 25 meters (a very low 5.5 MOA bar).

When it was finally my turn, I assumed the specified fox hole prone postion and started firing my 3 shot groups. After about the 4th shot the operator started applying percussive maintenance to his display as the dot wasn't moving at all on the screen. After 6 shots, the operator was starting to tell me I'd have to shoot again after he fixed his display, when someone behind us started chuckling. We turned to find the battalion commander watching. He told the operator not worry about it and asked me where I'd learned to shoot and how I'd ended up at the weaponeer. I told him I had previous experience in bore and service rifle competition experience, but that I'd been issued 2 rifles that were not serviceable, had been unable to zero, and been sent to the weaponeer to "learn" how to shoot. He laughed and told the armorer I could obviously shoot and to issue me "one of the good ones".

That was an actual M16A1 in decent shape, and I easily shot expert with it. I really enjoyed shooting it on the Army's train fire ranges.
 
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