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Glock Revealed in Business Week
I hope this isn't going to be regarded as a general news story and frowned on. But the current, Business Week's cover story is about Glock and the suspected crooked dealings by that firm.
Thought that gun enthusiasts would want to read it. It's quite detailed. A Glock is on the cover.
If you are thinking of buying a Glock, you may wish to peruse it.
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Very interesting and more than worth reading IMHO.
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Any chance this is posted online anywhere?
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09-19-2009, 03:30 PM
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It's the official gun of ACORN.
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This link includes a video by Massad Ayoob. It is certainly worth watching, but what he did with the Glock is much what some other modern semi-autos will accomplish.
And he works the revolver so fast that I doubt that any crooks would withstand his firepower from it!
Thanks for posting. The actual magazine edition has added photos, but Online access will be easiest, although Business Week is sold even at many grocers.
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interesting read. he invented a better mousetrap and was a genius at marketing it.
i would posit many, many corporations have offshore holdings
business week should get points for at least not running an anti gun rant.
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NRA $115,000.00 from Glock.
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If you are thinking of buying a Glock, you may wish to peruse it.
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It should be noted that the NRA at the May 2009 annual meeting received $115,000.00 from Glock. I don’t think they’ll be returning the money any time soon.
Most of the information in the article may be new to the uninformed but to the informed its basically old news in most respects.
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I tried to read it, but it makes my head hurt.
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It should be noted that the NRA at the May 2009 annual meeting received $115,000.00 from Glock. I don’t think they’ll be returning the money any time soon.
Most of the information in the article may be new to the uninformed but to the informed its basically old news in most respects.
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So, that means that the NRA publications will not run a bad article about them period or "bite the hand that feeds them."
Sounds like a pay-off or outright bribery to me.
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This isn't a big shock if it is true (and probably some of it is). Intrigue and such stuff are common in ALL businesses to some extent and the firearms industry is no exception. The history of firearms/arms industry is rife with such over the centuries. I seem to remember a book about Interarms years ago and compairing them with gun runners and so on.
I am not a fan of the Glock, I could never get comfortable with it. But I have to give it its due. It is a low maintenance, reliable, fairly accurate, ugly piece of ordinance that will do its job when called to do so. A lot of cops who purchase their own sidearms in my neck of the woods favor it with SIG following second. IMHO opinion, it is "the AK-47" of the handgun world.
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Sounds like my kinda guy. Makes me want to buy another Glock.
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09-19-2009, 07:18 PM
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Andy, you're joking, right?
Seems like anyone that makes a success of their life, and a pile of money in the process, is suspected of breaking the law. At the very least, the successful person must be immoral. I credit liberal ideology for this corruption of America's work ethic.
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Graft, corruption, fraud, misrepresentation, theft and other questionable and illegal activities are the rules, not the exceptions at middle size and larger corporations.
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Henry Ford would be a good example
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Graft, corruption, fraud, misrepresentation, theft and other questionable and illegal activities are the rules, not the exceptions at middle size and larger corporations.
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Henry Ford would be a good example of all of the above. This did not stop people from buying the Models T & A
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"Graft, corruption, fraud, misrepresentation, theft and other questionable and illegal activities are the rules, not the exceptions at middle size and larger corporations." - Houston Rick
I don't buy it.
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I think the article is anti gun and misleading. It purports that Glock used illegal business practices to market his firearm by selling it law enforcement and then to the general public. Every gun manufacturer wants to do that. Its not unethical at all. If you want to see deceptive advertising practices, just watch tv commercials.
As to fraud, it seems that those who created these organizations, were the ones profiting from it, in addition to stealing from Glock, and ended up in jail. I notice the article fails to make a nexus to Gaston Glock, just insinuations. Maybe there is, and if so, he should suffer the consequences.
Glocks still sell for less than other major brands.
Just my .02 worth.
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I think “the rule” is a bit of a stretch.
However, at those points where business interacts with government, there we may have common corruption. How do you suppose one gets a contract to supply a city or state with handguns or anything else? Merit? Price? Service? These may not detract but contributions to the proper parties, now that can be a deal clincher.
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Glocks still sell for less than other major brands.
Just my .02 worth.
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Except (to my delight) the SW40VE and SW9VE. And Glock agreed not to throw a fit over that, or continue litigation because Smith and Wesson removed the one bit of design that Glock felt was their intellectual property. They considered that one particular tab so much like theirs that they threatened gun store owners that they would withhold Glocks from any store that sold pre-redesign Sigmas.
Smith needs to really advertise the Sigmas as their absolute best buy.
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"Graft, corruption, fraud, misrepresentation, theft and other questionable and illegal activities are the rules, not the exceptions at middle size and larger corporations." - Houston Rick
I don't buy it.
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Sorry Out West, I'm gonna have to agree with Houston Rick on this. I have seen these activities (and lost a few jobs because I wouldn't "get with the program" and "play the game") far too up close and personal. Many companies I have worked for were one step away from an indictment IMHO.
One of my former employers told me "You can't be honest and be a good businessman...there never has been one and there never will be one." Sadly, I learned all those years since that he was pretty much right on the money.
Glock sells to a lot of people, including governments, where corruption is the order of the day. I'm quite sure he did what other businesses do to get large contracts.
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Quote:
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"Graft, corruption, fraud, misrepresentation, theft and other questionable and illegal activities are the rules, not the exceptions at middle size and larger corporations." - Houston Rick
I don't buy it.
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There are Pirates and Buccaneers in the world of business. To say it isn’t so is being more high minded/principled than being pragmatic. I’ve been inadvertently associated with a couple pirates. Reverse Engineering is a form of Pirating that’s a more common practice than people would like to think that occurs.
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I thought it was a good article, I am sure Glock is not the only company with shady dealings.
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Interesting article; makes me want to buy a Glock.
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