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Old 04-14-2010, 11:11 AM
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Oops. I didn't see that. It's a nice enough gun though that I would try to find someone that could repair that.
David Chicoine is probably the go-to guy for that, but a fix would likely involve machining a replacement hook and then welding it on. Then the gun would have to be totally refinished, which with its funky engraving and the scene on the sideplate, would probably be very difficult and time consuming, and therefore very expensive.
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I'm having Chicoine work over and refinish a S&W DA .44 that I got cheap, and the final bill will be far more than the gun will ever be worth. I would've been much better off just selling the dang thing as-is, but I couldn't resist "saving" it.

I think this MH is probably best left as-is, although it'd be nice to find a replacement for that missing screw.
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Oops. I didn't see that. It's a nice enough gun though that I would try to find someone that could repair that.
Definitely the topstrap is broken, but like I said, I just want it to get cleaned up so there won't be more rust damage and have it for personal display.

I'm sorry about the records being destroyed in the factory fire, I'd love to get some idea of it's history.
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Just an update on the gun that started this thread. My Dad gave it to me this past weekend. He had given it to me as a kid a long time ago and I used to shoot it from time to time, but after I moved out of my parents house it stayed there with his collection, but now once again it resides in mine. It was one of his first handguns and then one of mine and it's great to have it once again.
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Glad the gun will be in the care of someone who really cares about it...you. Looking back on the first page of the thread, I see that you originally wanted to know a ball park idea of value. This set is surely in the $4,000.00 to $5,000.00 dollar range at least. Regular non-engraved two barrel set guns (while still rare enough) go for around $2300.00 to $3750.00. There is as yet no premium for blued guns even though their production numbers are only 2% of MH&Co's output, but this may change in the future as collectors realize how rare blued Merwins are. The real kicker is that it is an engraved two barrel set, which is incredibly rare. I've been looking at Merwins for 15 years and yours is the only engraved two barrel gun set I've ever seen.
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Glad the gun will be in the care of someone who really cares about it...you. Looking back on the first page of the thread, I see that you originally wanted to know a ball park idea of value. This set is surely in the $4,000.00 to $5,000.00 dollar range at least. Regular non-engraved two barrel set guns (while still rare enough) go for around $2300.00 to $3750.00. There is as yet no premium for blued guns even though their production numbers are only 2% of MH&Co's output, but this may change in the future as collectors realize how rare blued Merwins are. The real kicker is that it is an engraved two barrel set, which is incredibly rare. I've been looking at Merwins for 15 years and yours is the only engraved two barrel gun set I've ever seen.
I still don't think the engraving is original. It's very crudely done. I know a lot of people here think it is original but the pictures aren't close enough up for you to tell. I will take some close ups today and post them and see what you think. Of course either way I would never sell it. I think that goes without saying

Okay here we go. More close ups. I wish my camera was better but this old 2005 technology is all I've got:




This one is really hard to capture with my camera. The detail is really small and fine. It looks to be a mountain lion on a tree branch.

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Okay here's a couple more.

Update: Just sold them.




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Merwin Hulbert first model my Dad bought about 50 years ago for $15. Center fire probably .44 M&H cal. None of the .44s I have, will go in and a .41 is sloppy.

Looking back in this thread is a MH single action with the top strap and crude engraving. Reminds me, in '64 Mexico City I bought one with top strap, full length barrel for about $15. Sold it soon after in US for $65. On its barrel left side was the name Anitua & Charola, maybe made in Mexico. I remember comparing the lettering with the Hopkins & Allen on mine (above) and it looked pretty much the same.

Wonder what mine is worth. I'm interested in Colt 1905 .45ACP automatics mostly now.

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Twaits,
That is very interesting but it does not compare to any factory work I have seen. From your early pictures I thought it may have been. Still it is a two barrel set and only one of three I have seen ( Med. Frame Pocket Model ) in the last 25 years messing with Merwins.

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Nice 2nd Model SA Frontier Army in .44 M&H you have there. Looks very honest. The first model has two small screws just above the trigger on the left of frame where your 2nd model has one. Like the grips also!! Looks like a 3000.00 to 3800.00 with the amount of finish remaining. The grips help about 400.00 of that!!
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That is very interesting but it does not compare to any factory work I have seen. From your early pictures I thought it may have been. Still it is a two barrel set and only one of three I have seen ( Med. Frame Pocket Model ) in the last 25 years messing with Merwins.

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Nice 2nd Model SA Frontier Army in .44 M&H you have there. Looks very honest. The first model has two small screws just above the trigger on the left of frame where your 2nd model has one. Like the grips also!! Looks like a 3000.00 to 3800.00 with the amount of finish remaining. The grips help about 400.00 of that!!
Thanks for your input. I was pretty sure the "engraving" was not original.
But I love the gun regardless.
I have decided to try to sell the other two nickel plated guns. I have listed both together on Gunbroker.
I hope that is allowed there. I don't think I've ever seen anyone list two guns together on GB before!
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This is not an M & H but a Forehand and Wadsworth. My father in law plowed this relic up on his farm north of Sylvia, KS about 50 years ago. Man, if old guns could talk, I bet this one would have a good story to tell!
I checked, it isn't loaded. I know it has no value, but it sure looks good on my gunroom wall, next to an 1889 Peacemaker dug up on the site of an old Army post at Liberal, KS.
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I still don't think the engraving is original. It's very crudely done. I know a lot of people here think it is original but the pictures aren't close enough up for you to tell. I will take some close ups today and post them and see what you think. Of course either way I would never sell it. I think that goes without saying

Okay here we go. More close ups. I wish my camera was better but this old 2005 technology is all I've got:




This one is really hard to capture with my camera. The detail is really small and fine. It looks to be a mountain lion on a tree branch.
These are MUCH better pictures...your 2005 technology is just fine. I t sure looks like this is "homemade" engraving and not by MH&Co. Also, Merwins ,if engraved, tend to be engraved all over...frame ,cylinder, barrel etc. I've never seen one with just one section engraved. Not to say they couldn't exist, just never seen any. In your first photos (and this is no criticism of your photos) , you really couldn't tell how extensive the engraving coverage was and Merwin engraving is sometimes VERY hard to capture on blued guns.Thanks again for going to the trouble of posting more photos. Any and all information about MH&Co is greatly welcomed because there is so little known.
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Merwin Hulbert first model my Dad bought about 50 years ago for $15. Center fire probably .44 M&H cal. None of the .44s I have, will go in and a .41 is sloppy.

Looking back in this thread is a MH single action with the top strap and crude engraving. Reminds me, in '64 Mexico City I bought one with top strap, full length barrel for about $15. Sold it soon after in US for $65. On its barrel left side was the name Anitua & Charola, maybe made in Mexico. I remember comparing the lettering with the Hopkins & Allen on mine (above) and it looked pretty much the same.

Wonder what mine is worth. I'm interested in Colt 1905 .45ACP automatics mostly now.
This looks like one of those guns that looks even better in person. It is SO hard to capture what a nickeled gun really looks like. Beautiful grips...
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Merwin Hulbert first model my Dad bought about 50 years ago for $15. Center fire probably .44 M&H cal. None of the .44s I have, will go in and a .41 is sloppy.

Looking back in this thread is a MH single action with the top strap and crude engraving. Reminds me, in '64 Mexico City I bought one with top strap, full length barrel for about $15. Sold it soon after in US for $65. On its barrel left side was the name Anitua & Charola, maybe made in Mexico. I remember comparing the lettering with the Hopkins & Allen on mine (above) and it looked pretty much the same.

Wonder what mine is worth. I'm interested in Colt 1905 .45ACP automatics mostly now.
If it doesn't say on the gun what caliber it is, it's .44 Merwin.
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This is not an M & H but a Forehand and Wadsworth. My father in law plowed this relic up on his farm north of Sylvia, KS about 50 years ago. Man, if old guns could talk, I bet this one would have a good story to tell!
I checked, it isn't loaded. I know it has no value, but it sure looks good on my gunroom wall, next to an 1889 Peacemaker dug up on the site of an old Army post at Liberal, KS.
Red: I bet that old Forehand and Wadsworth really could tell a story as you suggest. You and others may have also noticed that it appears this thing was cocked (?) when it was dropped many years ago!
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Bob,
Yes, the gun is cocked but not loaded. The odd thing about it is the location. It's over 10 miles from the nearest small town. It's not the type of gun you would expect a cowboy to have? And it was a long way off the nearest road, where you might expect a bootlegger to be. (Kansas was dry, back then.)
From the same farm, my father-in-law gave me an old bottle with several .41 caliber shells in it, unfired, that he had found under the back seat of an old '30s model car that had sat on the edge of a field for many years. As I remember, they are 41 Long Colt? I'll have to dig them out and check. That too brings up visions of bootleggers! I wish he had found the gun that the .41s belonged to!
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I sold these two guns to a nice guy named Jim Hickey out in California.
If anyone here has an opportunity to do business with him I highly recommend him. I sent him a link to this thread and have encouraged him to join us.

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As this seems to be the official, "unoffical Merwin Hulbert thread of the S&W Forum", I am posting another CAD rendering that Montanian sent me. Here also is a link to the thread I posted in the MH forum: http://www.forum.merwinhulbertco.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1093&page=0&vc=1&PHPSESSID=#Post1093

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That's an impressive CAD drawing but I'm still puzzled as to why there's no working prototype yet. Or even pictures of any parts?
Is this really going to happen?
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I posted the picture full size on the Merwin Hulbert Forum, along with another CAD rendering.

Merwin Hulbert & Co. Forum: new Merwin production updates



So what is this model made out of?
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So what is this model made out of?
Black delrin, I'd guess.

EDITED TO ADD: I spoke too quickly. Seems to be a stereolithographic product (but still a plastic) according to a post in the thread Tom K linked to.
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As this seems to be the official, "unoffical Merwin Hulbert thread of the S&W Forum", I am posting another CAD rendering that Montanian sent me. Here also is a link to the thread I posted in the MH forum: http://www.forum.merwinhulbertco.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1093&page=0&vc=1&PHPSESSID=#Post1093

Since posting photos up on the MH website is almost beyond my comprehension I am piggybacking this information here. Various people have requested different/changed (improved ?)sights on the new Merwin repros and while I hope they make them as close to the originals as possible, they can definitely be improved upon. One way to do this and still be completely historically accurate would be to offer the option exhibited here on a Merwin of mine. It has the extremely rare factory installed target sight (fire blued). An option like this on the new repros would allow different sight blades and still be in keeping with the originals.
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Some other pics of the open top Merwin with dove-tailed front sight. This gun was also special ordered with a silver plated trigger instead if the usual fire blue finish.
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My third model engraved, cut barrel, 44-40 cal. - it's got some areas of corrosion but if it didn't then I wouldn't have been able to afford it - sharpie is gone:



And my 4th model, 5 1/2-inch barrel, engraved with ivories in 44-40 - I bought it even though it's worn because it has only Hopkins Allen markings on it - no Merwin markings - making it one of the last produced which is pretty rare, I believe? Also, I haven't seen too many engraved 4th models:



- there is really something special about Merwins. Thanks for looking.

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Once you see that Sharpie you can't un-see it.
Nice guns though!
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My third, and last, Merwin, a Pocket Army in 44-40. It has a cut down barrel with an 1876 seated liberty quarter as a sight and the cylinder was replaced with an earlier one back in the day. I know this because it's been in this configuration since the mid 1890s.

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My third, and last, Merwin, a Pocket Army in 44-40. It has a cut down barrel with an 1876 seated liberty quarter as a sight and the cylinder was replaced with an earlier one back in the day. I know this because it's been in this configuration since the mid 1890s.

Thats my favorite one! I love that it was cut down way back in the day for someone to use as a concealed carry gun. That's excellent!
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Thanks Twaits - there is an interesting story behind the pocket model. I have a signed letter dated 1923 that tells a story of how this gun was used to shoot a cow puncher on a ranch in Colorado in 1893. He died quickly from his woulds but not before he shot the original owner of this Merwin. This murderer was able to ride off with another intruder but dropped this Merwin where he was shot so it was the gun that killed the cowboy. The murderer was later found dead with no papers, boots, or horse (probably all having been taken by his compadre) after being trailed by a posse. The sheriff of that posse gave the MH to the author of the letter - the murdered man's best friend who was with him when he died and also was a member of the posse. One of these days I'll check the facts of the letter, which are extremely interesting. When I saw the gun, I bought it for the cut-down barrel and replaced sight, not the story; but it's still very cool to have.

Also, Montanian replied to a post over at the Merwin Hulbert forum letting me know that the scooped cylinder could have been original to the gun as there were left-overs of these from first model production that were used for second models.

Photo of front sight - you can see the date and the base of the seated liberty



And the other side where the eagle head is visible

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Levallois,

Thanks so much for sharing that story! I love these historical tidbits.
I have a thread over on another forum about a gun I have that I've been researching for many years. I'm still researching. The gun itself is nowhere near as interesting as your Merwin, but it has uncovered a very interesting old story. It's in this thread:

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I work at a local museum and I helped them inventory their firearm collection this past year. They have two Merwin & Hulbert pistols. Before I started with the inventory, I had never seen nor heard of these great pistols. The workmanship, fit and finish is top notch. Also, the way they function is pure genius!

The pistols they have are an early open top Army model in 44-40 with 7.5" barrel and nickel finish and well work ivory grips. This pistols is well used, with 60% of the finish remaining and the hammer doesn't always stay on cocked. The other one is a seven shot 32 with folding hammer and is a factory two barrel set, since the barrels have the same serial number as the frame It has a nickel finish and looks like it has never been used, retaining about 98% of it original finish. It also has the original black plastic grips and a lanyard loop on the butt, but is not a skull crusher style butt.

I am now on the lookout for one of these fine pistols, but when I fine one, I am not sure I will be able to afford it. It sure has been nice to be able to see two of them in person as these are a piece of almost lost history. They are finally getting the respect they deserve as being mention along with Colt and Smith & Wesson as far as quality and value.
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Nutsforsmiths,

Once you're hooked on Merwins, that's it; time to get a second job to not only pay for all the MHs you are going to want but also to pay for all the expensive trinkets for your significant other so they won't just up and leave due to your new obsession.

This thread has ruined me - I just bought another Merwin long distance - should be here next week. No decent photos are available. What's the name of that jewelry store down the street . . . . . . .?

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Nutsforsmiths,

Once you're hooked on Merwins, that's it; time to get a second job to not only pay for all the MHs you are going to want but also to pay for all the expensive trinkets for your significant other so they won't just up and leave due to your new obsession.

This thread has ruined me - I just bought another Merwin long distance - should be here next week. No decent photos are available. What's the name of that jewelry store down the street . . . . . . .?

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John, Keep us updated. Looking forward to seeing pics of your newest Merwin!
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I've been following this thread, as I find these guns very interesting. Some day I hope to have one. Funny thing is, I just realized they are still in business, and you can order a new MH! I'm a sentimentalist though, and like the originals!
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I've been following this thread, as I find these guns very interesting. Some day I hope to have one. Funny thing is, I just realized they are still in business, and you can order a new MH! I'm a sentimentalist though, and like the originals!
Misty, actually the new Merwin Hulbert Company has nothing to do with the old one. They have not yet produced a "new" MH but seem to have been working on this for several years now and still no prototype.
The old company folded before 1899.
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Here's my MH, my dad bought it for $15 about 1960 when Colt SAAs in 'ole brown gun' condition were selling for $25 here in OK. In those days nobody wanted a gun they couldn't shoot.

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rhmc24 - nice big Merwin at a price that I can't even imagine these days.

On another note, I'm not hanging out here anymore. You guys are costing me money with all this Merwin talk. You forced me to buy this Second Model Pocket, 38-cal, 5-shot, 5 1/2-inch barrel, and engraved; sailboat scene on panel. It's in pretty good shape but there is some milkyness to areas of the nickel and some flaking. But if it was perfect I wouldn't have been able to afford it:









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Just thought I’d revive this old thread as the place to talk about Merwin Hulberts on the S&W Forum.

Indications are that the new MH company is getting closer to actually producing. There’s a thread saying that they’ve solved their barrel manufacturing problems:
http://www.forum.merwinhulbertco.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1221&an=0&page=0#Post1221

and another one for requesting a .pdf catalog: http://www.forum.merwinhulbertco.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1233&an=0&page=0#Post1233

There still aren’t any photographs of actual guns, just CAD renderings. Here’s a screenshot of the order form within the catalog, with prices:

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I thought I'd revive this old thread. I received an email from Montanian (Al Jones) with the following info:

"If you care, and some folks seem fixated with seeing pictures of parts on the Merwins, I've attached a photo comparing the new frames (1878 Pocket Army) side by side with the original 1878 Pocket Army we developed these from (whose CAD drawings are featured in the catalog and that guided cutting these out of solid 4140 steel. Frame is the most complex part on these, more complex than probably any revolver in the last century so it's been interesting to make. What you see here is the raw steel, before final polishing let alone nickelplating or blueing.

Odd thing is by milling these rather than casting, forging, or metal-injection-molding them we pick up cross-grain strength and they're preheat-treated to the strength of a rifle receiver (because we're used to making rifles which of course handle much higher stresses than handguns.) So it looks like we've accidentally built among the very strongest revolver frames ever made. The internal parts are made of the same preheat-treated 4140 chrome-moly carbon steel as well which is quite a bit better material than most internal parts get, ever, which is also odd when you think about it given the stresses and wear on the internals which after all determine how well the gun works.

The barrels will be oddly strong too and the rifling's more thought out with this method of forming the rifling at the time of the barrel's forming instead of a series of later steps. We're expecting them in late February.

Heck we just want you to have a revolver you can count on and that's consistently fun to shoot, easy to clean, and safe since it is in your favorite hand when you're using it."

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Walking through the gun show today and saw this beauty for less than half what I normally see them going for - needs a main spring but that's it! All there, all the markings clear as a bell, locks up tight, grips are perfect but changing to a chocolate brown color, and decent suction in 1873 Winchester caliber (44-40). Third model double action. Take a look:




Has an intertesting three letter mark that looks like H.E.R. - anybody got any ideas about that one?




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My husband and I have been looking everywhere for info on this gun. We have inherited quite a collection of guns and are trying to figure out what we have. The top is marked "MERWIN HULBERT & CO. NEW YORK U.S.A. PAT. APR.17.77 JUNE 15.80 MARCH 14.82 JAN .83" The grips are mother of pearl- one side carved with Mexican eagle.
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My husband and I have been looking everywhere for info on this gun. We have inherited quite a collection of guns and are trying to figure out what we have. The top is marked "MERWIN HULBERT & CO. NEW YORK U.S.A. PAT. APR.17.77 JUNE 15.80 MARCH 14.82 JAN .83" The grips are mother of pearl- one side carved with Mexican eagle.
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Beautiful Merwin Hulbert! The Mexican eagle on the grips means it probably was shipped to Mexico originally.
Merwin Hulberts were made at the Hopkins & Allen factory. In 1871 MH became the sole distributor for H&As guns. They remained until about 1896. They were the highest quality arms that were made at the Hopkins and Allen plant and were as good if not better than anything else that was available at the time.
There are others here that know more than I do about MH history that will probably chime in. There is a book on them by an author named Art Phelps who passed away a while ago. The book is out of print and very expensive. You can learn a bit more here:

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Terry Wagner is also a forum member here and was a good friend of Art Phelps. Perhaps he will be along to comment on your fine Merwin Hulbert.
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I didn't know there was a Merwin thread on this site. Now that I do, I might as well share as the Merwin site has gone cold.
I bought this Merwin very early model back in the sixties and no one knew much about it. I just liked it even though it was pretty well trashed. I built the front sight because it was missing and the grips as well. Had it reblued, which is a rare Merwin finish and original for this one. I just wanted it to look decent because it was so unique.
It's still worth between $1200-1500 even with the refinish. It's serial numbered to the first 1,800 produced and has the rare turned down hammer, sometimes called the Mexican model. It also has the detent barrel lever an early feature.10/22
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Is that the site from the company that was taking orders for the reproductions??????
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Beautiful Merwin Hulbert! The Mexican eagle on the grips means it probably was shipped to Mexico originally.
There are others here that know more than I do about MH history that will probably chime in. There is a book on them by an author named Art Phelps who passed away a while ago. The book is out of print and very expensive. You can learn a bit more here:

Terry Wagner is also a forum member here and was a good friend of Art Phelps. Perhaps he will be along to comment on your fine Merwin Hulbert.
My Father in Law was from Laredo and he and his father worked for the railroad. Very close to Mexico so it makes sense that the gun may have come from there. I haven't been able to find any others exactly like it. The book you mentioned I did find...for $350 plus too rich for me. From what I have seen I think the MH is worth quite a bit. We have a few other old guns- a Smith and Wesson (US- not in great shape) Remington WWII 1911, Remington double barrel 1879 shotgun, a Star, and more. Can you recommend a site to get info on all of them? I don't mean to be a pest and really appreciate the help, I feel lost in all of it!
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Is that the site from the company that was taking orders for the reproductions??????
Yes it is. They are running into more issues than I think they believed they would. They seem to have all the big pieces worked out and are down to the fitting of things like the cylinder pin. That is a very tricky item in that they are making it one piece and threading it very precisely to line up on torquing down. For future replacement etc. it contains the slot for the cylinder hand, plus the extractor ring and it has the cut channel for the barrel to lock, slide down and rotate in. Wow, one piece fitting of that is more than challenging. All bet my Merwin the factory didn't do it that way. In fact if you look under the hammer when drawn back, you will see the screw holding the pin into frame.
Well, they seem to know what they want and after 2 years work, they aren't giving it up.
Montanian or Al Jones has left the company. So has a couple of others in management. Mike Blank, CEO and founder was unhappy about stated delivery times before they were anywhere near ready. I think it nearly sunk the project by promising what could not be delivered.
I really like Al, he's a really smart guy. Who knows when we'll see a new Merwin. Still Mike is committed and I think he's an honest guy also.
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I didn't know there was a Merwin thread on this site. Now that I do, I might as well share as the Merwin site has gone cold.
I bought this Merwin very early model back in the sixties and no one knew much about it. I just liked it even though it was pretty well trashed. I built the front sight because it was missing and the grips as well. Had it reblued, which is a rare Merwin finish and original for this one. I just wanted it to look decent because it was so unique.
It's still worth between $1200-1500 even with the refinish. It's serial numbered to the first 1,800 produced and has the rare turned down hammer, sometimes called the Mexican model. It also has the detent barrel lever an early feature.10/22
Refinished or not that is a really fine looking Merwin. I've never seen that hammer spur style on one of these. Thanks for sharing!

(the Merwin Hulbert forum has definitely gone cold. I don't know if it was ever hot really. I doubt it will be around much longer)
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My Father in Law was from Laredo and he and his father worked for the railroad. Very close to Mexico so it makes sense that the gun may have come from there. I haven't been able to find any others exactly like it. The book you mentioned I did find...for $350 plus too rich for me. From what I have seen I think the MH is worth quite a bit. We have a few other old guns- a Smith and Wesson (US- not in great shape) Remington WWII 1911, Remington double barrel 1879 shotgun, a Star, and more. Can you recommend a site to get info on all of them? I don't mean to be a pest and really appreciate the help, I feel lost in all of it!
When I have anything that's not a Smith or a Colt that I need info on, I usually go to thefirearmsforum.com
There's a section called "ask the pros what its worth" which is usually pretty good. Also another section on Curio and Relics. There are some real helpful folks over there.
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Refinished or not that is a really fine looking Merwin. I've never seen that hammer spur style on one of these. Thanks for sharing!

(the Merwin Hulbert forum has definitely gone cold. I don't know if it was ever hot really. I doubt it will be around much longer)
Thanks. Here are a couple more very early examples with features that were later dropped. First site, first page of Merwins, talks about the older features that mine has and half down the page the second site gives a closeup of the detent that Merwin eliminated.
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I forgot all about my little .32 when I first answered this. I bought this little gem for $50. Here's some detailed pictures of the workings of a Merwin Hulbert revolver:

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thanks for posting these pics!

Just buying one of these MH .32's today...a bit more than $50, but almost as good condition and working. Might have it by next week. I have been interested in these for years, but there is no way I can afford one of the big ones right now, and this just came to my attention this morning...

Will have pics when I get it.

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Merwin Hulbert is dead and gone. The British company that purchased them has stated they will NOT make any revolvers, and would like to sll the rights to the name to anyone who is actually making replica revolvers now.
They are sending letters to those who put money down on the proposed "New" Merwin Hulberts, and they say they WILL refund that money. Please see my post on this in the Hand Ejector forum - it includes the link to the company article and statement.

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They are not British and claim Wyoming ownership:

“One of the primary goals of the owners, and I am one of the co-owners, is that this business be solely a Wyoming business,” Lesser said. “That it’s based in Wyoming, it’s headquarterd in Wyoming. We will have some satellite businesses, Broadsword is the holding group, we will have several businesses under that, but this will be the epicenter. Everything will either be made here or will pass through it.”
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