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Old 09-28-2010, 05:03 PM
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I'm a .338-06 fan......a heavy for caliber .33 or .35 inch slug at a moderate velocity...is seldom a mistake for large game.

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Old 09-28-2010, 09:19 PM
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I'm a big fan of the 35 Whelen though I have never had one, never shot one, maybe never even seen one. I have been a fan since I was a kid. I'm going to get one some day, probably a Savage in 30-06 and get a 35 Whelen barrel.
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Just bought a rem. 750 woodsmaster in 35 whelen. All I got to say is AWESOME! Brought to range with 30-06 BLR that I've had 9 years and out shot the blr at 100 yrds.For everyone saying BAR is better B.S. I bought the 750 online at Don's Hobby guns for $489 the BAR is no less than $1,000 and there is no way it is more accurate let alone easier to shoot. This 35 kicks like a .243 for real.
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Tinker Dave, go to the ER Shaw website. They'll make you a custom 35 Whelen for under $850. With a barrel length up to 26 inches, sporter or varmint weight, and a Savage lefthand action. I shoot a .35 Whelen for deer, elk, and anything else large. It hammers deer with the Sierra bullet in 225gr. It loves this Gameking, and the Speer 250gr Hot core. Both go 1" or tighter at 100yds. The Sierra just lays a deer down. I have never recovered a bullet from the Whelen in a deer. They ALWAYS exit. The Sierra makes a silver dollar to baseball size exit wound through the hide out to 385 yds, too. It creates the kind of sucking chestwound that puts an animal on the ground in its tracks. I am retired Army, and have shot deer on Ft. Riley with it out to 300 yards and as close as 30 yds. On private land north of fort Riley, I have used it on beanfields out to 450yds. It is capable of shooting as flat as a 30-06 and delivers about 1000ftlbs more energy at the muzzle. It drops deer with the Sierra 225 grain Boattail so fast that if there are more than one, you will probably get a second one while they are trying to figure out what just happened to the first one. I have killed as many as three deer at the same time during the Kansas doe season in Area 8 in January. I did use a Shepherd P2 Scope with bullet drop and rangefinding system built in, and shot them at 285yds, 325yds and 386 yards lazed, so they didn't react to the sound of the shot. I have so far killed about 35 deer (mostly does) since I bought the rifle from Cabela's in 2005. I killed the last three on Jan. 6, 2012, north of Milford Lake, and haven't had the chance to hunt there since then, since I'm currently in Afghanistan. Enjoy the Whelen. Its a great caliber.
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Old 08-11-2014, 04:53 PM
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Even though this is an ANCIENT thread...here you go:

The .35 Whelen is nice, but I prefer the .350 Remington Magnum...gives ~50 fps over the Whelen in a short action.

I have a Remington 673 Guide Rifle...knocks elk down!

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Old 08-12-2014, 12:17 AM
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It does in the lighter bullets (200gr.), but the Whelen has the edge with 225gr and 250gr bullets, due to throat length and the ability to seat bullets out farther. But if you really want to slam something from a 30-06 parent case, check out the Hawk and Hawk-Scovill cartridges. They take the '06 and move the shoulder forward, keeping the same taper/shoulder angle and get about 10% more capacity. It makes the .358 skate along at about the .375 H&H's class. You fireform brass about the same way you do a Brown-Whelen. TopHat used to make model 1895 leveraction rifles for these wildcats. The .375 Hawk is a good dangerous game rifle. In a leveraction that will shoot Spitzer bullets, it should be awesome. However, I'm pretty happy with 250gr. Speers at 2675fps and 3950 ftlbs or so. That's what my Speers chronograph at with RL 15. I get back from Afghanistan this Fall, and intend to use this load on elk in Colorado.
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Old 08-12-2014, 12:46 AM
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My elk load here in New Mexico is a 225 Grain partition over W748. It chronographs at a bit above 2700 fps from a 22" barrel in a short action, quick handling rifle. However, I've never needed more than one shot. And you are right about OAL...but I'll take the short action.
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Old 08-17-2014, 02:46 AM
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I'm getting around 2725fps with Sierra 225gr boattails. I load RL 15, and I'm not conservative in my handload for this bullet. It shows less pressure sign than a factory .30-06 in 180gr. I shoot it from a 24" Remington CDL. I've never recovered a bullet so far, and I've killed about 35 Kansas whitetail with it at ranges from 20yds to 400yds. People who think the Whelen is a brush cartridge or the .350 Mag is either just haven't used them, and don't load for them. I don't use Alliant's new load though. It is ultra-conservative, and I think it is lawyer driven due to the number of old pre-WWII rifles out there. My 250gr. (Speer bullet) load Chronos at about 2675fps from this rifle, and I set the bullet out to max length. I have a long throat in this rifle, so that helps. It doesn't effect the accuracy of the Sierra bullet though. The Sierra goes well inside an inch, and the Speer is right on an inch at 100yds. The speer load shows exactly the same pressure signs as a fired factory 30-06 casing used to launch 180gr. bullets at 2700fps nominal. I even miked the head and body to see how much deformation they had. Primer is moderately flattened. Bolt is easy to manipulate. Bullet literally shoots through trees and telephone posts. What more do you want? Barrel twist for this rifle is 1 in 16. I'm thinking about getting a rifle from E.R. Shaw in a 1 in 14 twist heavy fluted sporter with a 26in. barrel chambered for Ackley Improved .35 Whelen. Not for the horsepower, but for the case life, which is improved due to less backthrust on the cartridge. Nice Cow Elk. I'm going after one this fall with the Whelen.

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Old 08-17-2014, 10:42 AM
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Nice Cow Elk. I'm going after one this fall with the Whelen.
The .35 bores never seem to have gotten much notice or respect. Ah well.

The cow was shot at 55 yards with a 225 Partition noted above...bullet entered just in front of the point of the left shoulder, exited 8 inches lower just behind right front leg. She literally acted as if a rug had been pulled out from all 4 feet...dropped where she stood and didn't twitch. THOSE are results.
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:35 PM
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I just love the .35 Whelen ctg !!! It's practical nostalgia in action. Remington also produced limited runs of this caliber in their Model's 750 & it's slide action cousin. The only ctg I like this much is the .358 Winchester, which is the little brother of the Whelen. In fact, my all time favorite north woods gun is my Savage Model 99-A in .358 Win. I hope you enjoy your new 700, & don't be shy to search around for different loads for it. IIRC, at present, only Remington, Federal, Buffalo Bore & possibly Hornandy are the only "big" producers of .35 Whelen ammo. Very nice find indeed !!

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Old 08-18-2014, 01:38 AM
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Nosler makes loads in the 225gr. Accubond and partition, and the 250gr. Partition. They're rated at 2750fps and 2550fps, respectively. I handload mine with Sierra 225's and Speer 250's. I tried the Hornadays but they weren't very tight at 100yds. I'll work up loads for the spirepoint 250 when I get back from the 'Stan. Very good penetration on that Nosler. That's about what I get on large Whitetails with the Sierra. Exit wounds are around fist-sized and they go down right there. I shot my last deer with it at 385yds or so, and she dropped like a hot rock.

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Got back from the Stan and went elk hunting near Canon City, Colorado, 3rd season. I didn't see a single animal. Had lots of mule deer does around me, but no elk. The .35 Whelen shot great. I worked up some loads with the Sierra Gameking 225gr. bullet, which is a short bullet for caliber, but shoots very well in front of about 60.5 grains of RL 15 using a Remington 91/2 primer. The only problem is that I can't find the Sierras anywhere right now. I had them on order from Midway, and they cancelled it due to Remington telling them they wouldn't have the bullet available in the forseeable future. Well, maybe I'll get an elk next year.
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Old 03-16-2015, 12:56 AM
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I finally found some Sierra 225 grain .358 bullets. They have gone up to about 24 dollars for 50, which is pricey, but I bought them because they work. I will load them for my Fall elk hunt in Colorado this year. I'm also thinking of getting my rifle reamed for the Ackley Improved 40degree shoulder chambering so I can raise the MV for the Sierra into the 2800fps range. That would really hit like a truck.
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howdy green, welcome back home hand & thank you for the service. I'm a big fan of the .358Win in our old browning BLR.......very fast handling for repeat shots & accuracy is sub 1" with Win factory loads & good handloads.

Browning has come out with a take down, pistol grip version of their BLR in .35 Whelan Improved, blued or stainless, that if my health was better, buying one of these would have me scheming on selling my lady's good wedding china........heck there's some years we don't even use it, she might not even notice if 5 or 10 place settings were gone...........

Given the results of either the original cartridge or the Improved (you can fire factory .35 Whelan through the .35 Whelan Improved)..... and with good dangerous game iron sights on it.........with the quick release lever mounts on a good Leupold 1.5X5 VXIII....... it'd make a dandy brown bear/big moose rifle...... and with a switch barrel set up..... get a 24" or 26" barrel set up, with a 18" barrel set up with dangerous game iron sights if you had to follow one into the willows/alders.............would make for a dern good all around set up. With practice.. a lever rifle is as fast or nearly as fast as a double rifle..........with 4 rounds on tap in the magazine............ give it a thought hand...... I understand that Browning made a dern few new BLR TD's in .375 H&H if you can find one.......... they are not catalogued.
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"Browning has come out with a take down, pistol grip version of their BLR in .35 Whelan Improved, blued or stainless"

IF you could provide a source for this information I would be grateful.

I am unable to confirm this via local Browning sources...I would very much like a factory rig.

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I'd like to know who to contact for that BLR in .35 Whelen Improved too. I think that would be a great dangerous game rifle, and if accurate, a great rifle for pretty much any big game. Green
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I am not a rifle shooter, but how does a .35 Whelen compare too a .350 Rem. Mag.
The difference is mainly in the low pressures commonly used in difference to variations from older non-standard chambers and '03 Springfield rifles. A modern commercial action chambered in 35 Whelen is ready for modern non-magnum pressures. The 350 Rem Mag gets 2497 fps, 250 grain, 26 inch barrel, 53,200 cup. A 35 Whelen is rated at 2503 fps, 250 grain, 24 inch barrel, 48,900 cup, both from Hodgdon load data. The difference in barrel length and pressure both favor the 350 Rem Mag, which would make the gap even wider in favor of the 35 Whelen. The 35 Whelen holds 66.4 grain of water and the 350 Rem Mag holds 62.6 grains of water, using 225 grain Nosler spitzer bullets. The difference in case volume tells the story, if bullet diameter and pressure are equal.

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