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Old 11-23-2009, 08:39 PM
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Can I (no FFL) ship a rifle thorugh the US Mail to a FFL holder in another state? Can I (no FFL) ship a rifle thorugh the US Mail to a FFL holder in another state?  
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I sold my M1 Carbine (1943 Underwood) via this Forum.

Can I ship it myself to the buyer who has a C&R FFL through the US Mail who is in another state. Or does it need to go FFL to FFL?

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Emory
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:41 PM
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Yes. Rifle's Only.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:00 PM
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No problem, that's what C&Rs are used for! Ask for a copy of his license or your records. Congrats on the sale. If I remember right that was a very nice M1.
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No FFL is needed to ship a LONG GUN via USPS to an FFL holder. If a postal clerk tells you otherwise, ask him/her to get their manager and show you in the postal regs. where it says you cannot ship it. They won't because it isn't there. This is NATIONWIDE. If they refuse, Ask for the district managers number and don't leave 'til you have it and have called it, or had them call it for you. Sprefix
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Old 11-25-2009, 08:59 AM
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To make it really, really easy and head off any possible problems, this is what I have done:

When you present the package to the post office say, "Hello. I'm shipping this unloaded, disassembled rifle to this (hand the copy of the C&R to the post officer worker) Federal Firearms License holder. I know I need to show you the copy of their license so you can confirm that it matches the address on the package."

This works perfectly for me.
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:20 PM
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Yes you can. Make sure you retain a copy of their FFL (C&R) license for your records and the firearem is listed with ATFE as a C&R. You must declair that the contents is a gun and is disassembled. That goes for UPS and Federal Express. Some of my guns are shipped from non C&R and FFL sellers. Antique firearms can be shipped to a bonified resident of his state and is legal for that state. You need a copy of his DL. The Feds classify an antique as manufactured prior to 1898or a replica thereof. The replica can't use rimfire or conventional fixed ammunition unless that ammunition is no longer manufactured in the U.S. The State of Florida classified an antique as manufactured prior to 1918 or be a replica and may not use fixed ammo unless it is no longer manufactured in the U.S. and is not readily available in ordinary commerce.
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Old 11-27-2009, 04:53 PM
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Nothing in the USPO regs that states the firearm must be disassembled that I can see or am aware of.
I have been told by many clerks that it is so,,but when I ask them to show me where it says it must be disassembled, they never can find any.

It must be unloaded of course and it states that very plainly. They reserve the right to open and inspect to confirm or may demand written certification of same from you. That is in the regs.

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Not every firearm that is C&R is on the posted BATFE C&R list. Many of those are one-of firearms and modern collectables that have been added after application for C&R status from individuals.

The guide line of 50 yrs/old or older from todays date is one that is posted on the BATFE site and will cover the field in general back to Antique status firearms. You have to be able to prove the age of the firearm by published data or direct date stamping etc. No guessing on those close ones and watch out for State regs that vary the Antique status date. Some states don't even recognize C&R or Antique status at all and may treat either or both as transferable through an 01FFL only

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