Any Colt Experts on the forum?

[fighter62]

I run into a 1969 "COLT POLICE POSITIVE SPECIAL" 100% original and in about 98% or better conditon . FOUR INCH BARREL. (Original owner) Does not look like its been fired more then few rounds. ( No box). 38 SPL. Need some info on this one. How good of a gun ? Current Value?

[Art Doc]

No expert but I know that the PPS is the slightly larger version of the original Police Positive. The former was in 38 Special and the latter in 32 and 38 S&W.

The PPS is a D frame gun and is just a tad smaller than the S&W K frame. The Detective Special is the same gun with a 2" barrel. Up until about 1966 the grip frame was longer than on the more recent versions so stocks won't swap.

Value can depend on many variables but all Colts have soared in recent years as Colt got out of the new handgun market and used ones went up. I see decent PPSs going for $500+ which seems high to me.

Here's mine in nickel. The stocks are from an earlier model. By the 1970s they were using an ugly semi-target style with no medallions.

[fighter62]

The one I am talking about DOES NOT look like Yours. Its smaller, thin barrel. (???) made in 1969

[pawncop]

fighter62,

You might go over to the Colt Forum. Real nice folks, not as active as the S&W forum, but they REALLY know their Colts, and glad to share.

[Dragon88]

Yup, I signed up at the Colt Forum yesterday to ask about a Frontier Scout. Seems like a fine place, lots of old threads to search through for info, your answer is probably in there somewhere already.

http://www.coltforum.com

Also if you have a well stocked bookstore nearby with a good gun section you can consult the Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms.

[wdhdoc]

Originally Posted by fighter62

I run into a 1969 "COLT POLICE POSITIVE SPECIAL" 100% original and in about 98% or better conditon . FOUR INCH BARREL. (Original owner) Does not look like its been fired more then few rounds. ( No box). 38 SPL. Need some info on this one. How good of a gun ? Current Value?

Excellent gun. You have a "3rd Issue" Police Positive Special.
Assuming blue and truly in 98% or better condition, assuming original Colt medallioned checkered walnut grips also in excellent condition, assuming no box.... probably in the $400-450 range in today's market.

(current Blue Book, 98% condition, is $450).

Hope this helps

[fighter62]

Originally Posted by wdhdoc

Excellent gun. You have a "3rd Issue" Police Positive Special.
Assuming blue and truly in 98% or better condition, assuming original Colt medallioned checkered walnut grips also in excellent condition, assuming no box.... probably in the $400-450 range in today's market.

(current Blue Book, 98% condition, is $450).

Hope this helps

It does Help. Thank You. Yes, its a 1969 gun. No box, nice and sharp checkering on the grips, looks about 98%, lock-up is really tight. What would You consider a really good price? I mean like , hard to pass up price on arevolver like that?

[Art Doc]

Yours probably has the free-standing ejector rod. The shrouded rod design started in the early 1970s. The frames and internals were the same but the barrel contours looked far different.

[wraco]

Here's a couple of D frame Colts I have, only a few SN apart. The PPS and Det, Spec. use the same serial number block. Both of these are from the mid 1950's.

I've pasted the serial number info below the picture. Hope this helps.

Rod




1908----1
1909----13000
1910----22500
1911----35500
1912----51000
1913----65000
1914----90000
1915----110000
1916----125000
1917----143000
1918----145000
1919----162000
1920----190000
1921----225000
1922----242000
1923----270000
1924----283000
1925----309000
1926----325000
1927----331000
1928----333000
1929----373000
1930----383000
1931----400000
1932----405000
1933----412000
1934----423000
1935----435000
1936----444000
1937----452000
1938----457000
1939----467000
1940----471000
1941----474000
1942----477000
1943----479000
1944----479500
1945----480000
1946----481000
1947----490001
1948----494000
New series 510001
1949----501600 - 501817
also 515051 - 519410
New series 525001
1950----542400
1951----571500
1952----607400
1953----624850
1954----648900
1955----662650
1956----672050
1957----695400
1958----710600
1959----725600
1960----750000
1961----776400
1962----797500
1963----819500
1964----839500
1965----861500
1966----890800
New series D900101
1967----D926000
1968----D958500
1969----D99500 -- D998715
New series A10000
1970----A43500 - A59999
B01001 - B23000
1971----B23001 - B49000
1972----B49001 - B59999
C01001 - C26000
1973----C26001 - C60000
F01001 - F08800
1974----F08801 - F60000
H01001 - H18100
1975----H18101 - H60000
M01001 - M29600
1976----M29601 - M51999
01001M - 19200M
1977----19201M - 59999M
01001R - 11700R
1978----11701R - 59999R
S01001
1979----S01001

[fighter62]

Thats some good info. Thank You ! ( Now I just have to figure out what to pay for it....)

[oldogy]

I have one of 1942 vintage, 38 w/6" barrel. One sweet shooting little piece, one of my favorites. No idea of current value.
oldogy

[wdhdoc]

A REALLY good price bordering on a steal (as a buyer) IMHO would be $350 out the door. A good price would be $375-400 out the door.....
JMHO

[BruceM]

Good thread but what does this have to do with this Forum:

S&W Revolvers 1961-1980

Bruce

[fighter62]

I know, I figured , I could get some good info.

[PattonTime]

This gun as everyone else has stated, is the same gun as a Detective Special of the same era.
I bought a 1963 model in 2007 for $300.00 it was at least 98%
and I enjoy shooting it occasionally.
Another way to look at it, it is a fixed sight variation of a Diamondback...
Now those sell for $700.00 on up on the auction sights.
I think anything under $500.00 is a good price for the gun you described.
But remember , it will not sell easily like a Python or Diamondback will.
But the internals and action are very similar.

[fighter62]

350.00 total ????