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Remington Nylon .22 collector information-updated in post #75
I'm sure many of you, like me, collect other firearms besides Smith & Wessons. As some of you may know, I've been compiling information on the Remington Nylon series of .22 longarms for quite a while. I've been able to summarize some collector information into two sheets, reproduced here as .jpg files. The first deals with identification and production data, and the second with values. For those who collect or own one or more of these interesting arms, I hope this information will be of use to you. Bear in mind that I hold the copyright on these two sheets, but you are welcome to use the information for your own personal use. PS-see post #75 for an excerpt from my coming book "101 Classic Firearms" for a more detailed look at these great little rifles.
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I used to have an Apache Black auto, it was one of the most accurate .22 rifles I'd ever seen. I'd bought it off an Amish man for $5 because the rear sight was messed up and he wanted to get something new. I put a scope on it and showed it to my dad who thought it was too light to be any good. After he shot it a few times he borrowed it for about 10 years.
I also worked on quite a few of the Nylon 66s, they would get a crack in the reciever and I would epoxy them back to gether.
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Where are the numbers located?
The only number that I have seen on the Seneca Green one that I currently have is 'BG6', if that makes any sense at all.
Thanks for the really cool post!
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Right in front of the front sight on the barrel below 22 Long Rifle..mine is JR and then another hard to make out letter which I learned from above is inconsequential...July 1968...don't see any serial numbers. thanks John. Mine is Apache Black and sits in the safe next to my pristine 39A...I do believe I have two of the coolest .22s ever made....
I almost lost it to this fellow, my Godson...but he handled my scoped Marlin model 80 a bit better so I have him that on his 12th...some youngins' just ain't cut out for autos...
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what about the nickel finish one? i know where there is one for sale pretty close by mike
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Geeze, you guys are killin' me!
I've always wanted one, especially the black one.
Enjoy, gents!
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I always wanted one also.
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I'd be really impressed if there were assembly/disassembly instructions... My dad had one that he traded off many years ago. In a way I wish he still had it but he traded it to one of my uncles for my great grandfather's Winchester '92.
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Never got turned on to them but they are unique. It's just one of those guns that you don't "get" unless it gets you. The compilation of info is always good and very appreciated by fellow collectors.
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I had a very early 66. Paid $66.00 for it new when they first came out. Bought my Dad a bolt action version. My son has mine and my grandson has the bolt action one.
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I love my Remington Nylon 66 Apache Black .22 rimfire rifle.
Lightweight, accurate with open sights or with a scope.
Fun to shoot.
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I had the N-A77 "K-Mart Only" one years ago, was a great rifle.
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The only number that I have seen on the Seneca Green one that I currently have is 'BG6', if that makes any sense at all.
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The date code numbers are in front of the rear sight on the left side of the barrel. The code "BG" would indicate manufacture in January, 1960. The "6" is an inspector mark.
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I'd be really impressed if there were assembly/disassembly instructions... My dad had one that he traded off many years ago. In a way I wish he still had it but he traded it to one of my uncles for my great grandfather's Winchester '92.
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I'd be really impressed if there were assembly/disassembly instructions... My dad had one that he traded off many years ago. In a way I wish he still had it but he traded it to one of my uncles for my great grandfather's Winchester '92.
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Charlie had a tube-fed auto in .22. His stupid brother-in-law purposely ran in over in the driveway just to be a jerk.
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I've got a K-Mart Special. My first firearm that was truly mine. I had the cash, but I had to take Mom with me to fill out the paperwork. Great little rifle. If anyone has an extra magazine or two laying around, I'd likely buy it from ya.
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Super post! Thank you very much.
I've got the pre-serial number black and chrome, a brown Nylon 10C and the green one too. I'll never afford all 17 variations so figured one in each color will have to do.
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Thanks for all the hard work and a great post John. Very timely for me as I just got a brown one out of layaway today. I plan on spending the day with it tomorrow.
Last night I saw your post and went over the data and values. Your data came in very handy this afternoon while picking this one up. I asked the owner of the shop if he had any other 66's and he said that he had a green one in back in his collection. Turned out to be one of the K Mart clip fed ones in mint condition. Now that ones in layaway.
Sorry for the thumbnail photo, I still can't figure out why my Photobucket only does these.
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Where are the numbers located?
The only number that I have seen on the Seneca Green one that I currently have is 'BG6', if that makes any sense at all.
Thanks for the really cool post!
The date code numbers are in front of the rear sight on the left side of the barrel. The code "BG" would indicate manufacture in January, 1960. The "6" is an inspector mark.
Thanks again for the most excellent post and information!
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Paladin, Thanks for your hard work and effort. I have a question: On a green Apache 77 semi-auto with 10 round magazine the only markings on the left side of the barrel forward of the rear sight are "85", with a smaller "PI" or "Pl" under it. The cap on the bottom of the stock grip says "Remington Apache 77". According to your chart, it would have been made between 1987 and 1989, but the stamping codes don't jibe. Any idea when it was actually made? The serial # is A2400xxx. Thanks.
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Answer to Nylon 66 production dates
Actually, the key to manufacture date on your Remington Nylon 66 is not the serial number, but a stamping on the barrel. There will be two letters, the first being the month, and the second being the year. Here's a quick rundown.
B=Jan L=Feb A=Mar C=Apr K=May P=Jun O=Jul W=Aug D=Sep E=Oct R=Nov X=Dec As you will note, this forms the acronym BLACKPOWDERX, which is easy to remember.
The year codes are E-1958,F-1959,G-1960,H-1961,J-1962,K-1963,L-1964,M-1965,N-1966,P-1967,R-1968, S-1969,T-1970,U-1971,W-1972,X-1973,Y-1974,Z-1975,O-1977,Q-1978,V-1979,A-1980,B-1981,C-1982,D-1983, E-1984,F-1985,G-1986,H-1987,I-1988,J-1989,K-1990. Note that there are duplicates. Early guns had no serial number. Mid-production guns had no-prefix serial numbers. Later production guns had A-prefix serial numbers. Light or partial stampings can be confusing. View carefully with a magnifier. The two letters are right in front of the rear sight along the barrel on the left side of the barrel.
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Answer to Nylon 66 production dates
Actually, the key to manufacture date on your Remington Nylon 66 is not the serial number, but a stamping on the barrel. There will be two letters, the first being the month, and the second being the year. Here's a quick rundown.
B=Jan L=Feb A=Mar C=Apr K=May P=Jun O=Jul W=Aug D=Sep E=Oct R=Nov X=Dec As you will note, this forms the acronym BLACKPOWDERX, which is easy to remember.
The year codes are E-1958,F-1959,G-1960,H-1961,J-1962,K-1963,L-1964,M-1965,N-1966,P-1967,R-1968, S-1969,T-1970,U-1971,W-1972,X-1973,Y-1974,Z-1975,O-1977,Q-1978,V-1979,A-1980,B-1981,C-1982,D-1983, E-1984,F-1985,G-1986,H-1987,I-1988,J-1989,K-1990. Note that there are duplicates. Early guns had no serial number. Mid-production guns had no-prefix serial numbers. Later production guns had A-prefix serial numbers. Light or partial stampings can be confusing. View carefully with a magnifier. The two letters are right in front of the rear sight along the barrel on the left side of the barrel.
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BLACKPOWDERX! I love it!!
So PI would be June 1988, which coincides with Paladin's production dates for this model (1987-1989). Cool. Thanks Lee and Paladin.
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I have a Apache Black and a Mohawk Brown, both without serial numbers. I absolutely love to shoot these rifles. I do not have a scope on them and I can make a ragged hole every time. The first rifle I ever shot was a Nylon 66, it was on my Uncle's farm, he still has the farm and the Nylon.
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Rust!
In looking carefully to determine the date of manufacture, to my horror I discovered rust along the top of the receiver, in the crease along the side of the topstrap.
Can anyone give a rust idiot the how-to on how to get it off and keep it from coming back? What do I get and how do I use it? Thanks!
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That's where it....underside of front sight, about two inches back,,,you da man!!
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Thanks for posting the info, Paladin. I have an Apache Black 66 and a Mohawk 10C. I learned from your chart that the 5 round magazine I have in my 10C is for a 77. I guess it was replaced. Cool little rifles!
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Thanks for posting the info, Paladin. I have an Apache Black 66 and a Mohawk 10C. I learned from your chart that the 5 round magazine I have in my 10C is for a 77. I guess it was replaced. Cool little rifles!
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The magazines for the 77, the 10C, and the Apache 77 are all interchangeable, whether for 5 or 10 rounds. The 10C is nothing more than the 77, but sold with a 10-round magazine. The "10C" designation means "10 Cartridges!" The 77 didn't sell well with just a 5-round capacity, so they made a 10-round magazine and changed the designation on the grip cap to "10C." It's really the same rifle. Interestingly, the 10C was never a catalog item. It was sold at a deep discount to distributors and hardware stores. A lot of them were made, though!
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Hello Im a big fan of these guns I have a remington apache 77 with 6 10 rnd mags always on target never jams I clean it about every 200 rnds put a tactical rifel sling on it looks pretty nice i love it I have a friend that has the nylon 66 tube fed mb hes willn to sell it to me for $200 I purchased mine from a friend for 50$ with out the mags
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Hello Im a big fan of these guns I have a remington apache 77 with 6 10 rnd mags always on target never jams I clean it about every 200 rnds put a tactical rifel sling on it looks pretty nice i love it I have a friend that has the nylon 66 tube fed mb hes willn to sell it to me for $200 I purchased mine from a friend for 50$ with out the mags
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I have a couple of these guns and they are accurate and fun to shoot. Yet around here, they do not have much worth. I bought one last year for $55 at a pawn shop and have seen maybe four this week as I tour pawn shops looking for the next purchase.
I wish mine shot 22 shorts. It only shoots LR.
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There was a remington exibition shooter named jim fry. I remember a advertisement of him sitting on a huge stack of wood blocks that he had shot in the air. Forgot the number but he missed something like a couple out of a couple thousand thrown. I think my best old friend bill still has a black and chrome apache I sold him 35 years ago.
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I just googled the above. It was TOM fry, not jim. Go down this list and read about him and others.
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I never would have posted this question in this forum, but after googling I was surprised to find a nylon 66 thread here
I've taken mine apart and put it back together more times than anyone should count, that's not the issue. My question is how bad do you think it is for the nylon 66, to store it between shooting trips, leaving it always in the cocked position? Mine has an issue where if I let the bolt go forward at all, other than while firing, it gets stuck in the forward position and won't pull all the way back unless I disassemble the gun and 'help' the trigger back under it's retainer-thingy (that's a technical term). I suppose I can 'de-cock' it with a snap-cap (leaving the snap cap in there during normal storage) and i can just disassemble and 'fix' the stuck bolt again before bringing it shooting every time, but I'd rather have the gun ready to go any time without having to first disassemble it. So anyone think it would really be that bad to just leave it cocked all the time? (It's kept empty of course, I'm only talking about the bolt itself) I really don't have $$ to bring it to my favorite gunsmith right now. I figure .22LR's use pretty light springs anyway right? Or does anyone think will they 'wear-out' significantly faster?
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I never would have posted this question in this forum, but after googling I was surprised to find a nylon 66 thread here
I've taken mine apart and put it back together more times than anyone should count, that's not the issue. My question is how bad do you think it is for the nylon 66, to store it between shooting trips, leaving it always in the cocked position? Mine has an issue where if I let the bolt go forward at all, other than while firing, it gets stuck in the forward position and won't pull all the way back unless I disassemble the gun and 'help' the trigger back under it's retainer-thingy (that's a technical term). I suppose I can 'de-cock' it with a snap-cap (leaving the snap cap in there during normal storage) and i can just disassemble and 'fix' the stuck bolt again before bringing it shooting every time, but I'd rather have the gun ready to go any time without having to first disassemble it. So anyone think it would really be that bad to just leave it cocked all the time? (It's kept empty of course, I'm only talking about the bolt itself) I really don't have $$ to bring it to my favorite gunsmith right now. I figure .22LR's use pretty light springs anyway right? Or does anyone think will they 'wear-out' significantly faster?
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First, you really need to have a gunsmith take a look at it. That's a most unusual condition.
As for leaving it cocked, I wouldn't worry. The internal in-line hammer has a pretty powerful spring and a long stroke that insures plenty of striking power to the firing pin. I wouldn't leave it that way forever, but to do so until you have the $$ to have a gunsmith look it over should be no problem.
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Thanks for the input! Much appreciated
Last edited by iLikeOldGunsIlikeNewGuns; 08-17-2011 at 03:04 PM.
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08-17-2011, 02:27 PM
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Anyone else have a commemorative?
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12-08-2011, 09:54 PM
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I was just given one of these in two pieces. It's is surprisingly nice condition. The barrel band was broken, as well as the receiver cover screws. I ordered the parts from Numrich and then discovered the feed ramp, flat spring, pin and who knows what else is missing. The lock back lever was pinned to the trigger guard! It obviously got taken apart by someone who couldn't reassemble it. The trigger/hammer is all there and works.
Is it worth buying the parts? Any surprises that would be show stoppers? And since I don't even know for sure what's missing it will be a challenge for me. Any good videos?
Thanks,
Munster
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