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I always thought it was pretty darn accurate but you'd better keep it clean. I haven't shot it in 40 years but the day I retire I might put a magazine full through it. It's a ritual, twice a year I break it down as far as possible, clean it and oil it.



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I must compliment everyone who has posted pictures of their Luger.

I have never owned one, never even handled one, but I really can see why all of you guys like them. They are a great looking firearm from the past which isn't seen every day of the week.

Enjoy those works of art.
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Lugers are really neat. I have a .30 caliber version and I used it to shoot some 8" steel plates a couple months ago. Very fun and everyone looked at me like I was crazy! But they all sure wanted to give my Luger a try! Click on the below picture to see the video:





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Sorry,Picture is a little blurry, but here is a first issue P08 made in 1909. Marked in the commercial way and proofs on the left side. Hold open added.
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A luger is something that everyone should at least get a chance to shoot.
Last time I took my P-08 to the club , another shooter on the line had his young son (10 or so) with him. They both looked over it as it sat on the bench next to me , and the kid asked if it was real. I let him hold it and asked if he'd like to shoot it. Shoulda seen the look he gave his father! Let him fire a mag of 5. Saw the father at the next club meeting and he said that 'Lugers' was all the kid talked about for week.
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I used to own this 1906 german commercial in 7.65 (30 cal) with a ideal hoster/stock.

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Here is another that my uncle gave me. He was with the gliders in the 82nd AB. My ex ran off with it and others.
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Here's my 1970's Mauser model. When I used to belong to a Luger Forum, some of the folks there didn't consider these real Lugers, some did. Either way, it shoots fine. I'm at work now, I have an article saved at home about how they had to reverse engineer these in the Mauser factory from Swiss drawings, as they had gotten rid of all their old drawings. Later on, they did make some with more traditional Luger features/looks. The Swiss pattern ones are said to have a better trigger - I've never shot any but mine, but it's trigger does seem a lot more decent than the ones described in various old publications I have. For a very limited time when they were making these reproductions they made one with a heavy barrel and adjustable rear sight, but I've only seen one of those in Gun Digests.



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Thanks for all the pictures. Lugers are beautiful and, although I have never shot one, I really appreciate the way it feels in the hand.
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Here's a Luger variation that you won't see very often...

It's a Luger manufactured by Simson & Co. in 1928...

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I wonder if that was the same Simson that manufactured motorcycles in East Germany after the war. Google will probably know. Aha:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simson_(company)
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Yes - it certainly is the same company.

Simson was the only firm allowed (under the Versailles Treaty after WWI) to rework and manufacture Lugers for internal German use by the Police and the authorized 100,000 man army.

They used the tooling originally made for the Erfurt Royal Arsenal.

The tooling was sent to Krieghoff after the Nazi government seized and shut down Simson in the early 1930's. Simson was owned by a Jewish family.

There were approximately 12,000 Lugers made by Simson before they were shut down...

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DWM 1900 American Eagle 7.65mm



I posted a separate thread here in the Lounge to detail this marvelous pistol.

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It's a Luger manufactured by Simson & Co. in 1928...

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Hello, I hope I have come to the right place for research I'm doing. Is it possible anyone here may be able to trace the following Luger 30 caliber serial number: 7636? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I will gladly share my reason for the search if it is at all possible to find information on this Luger and if it still exist.
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Trying to find a specific gun that was made 70-112 years ago is likely an impossible task. The Luger Forum is a better bet than here at the S&W Forum but I would still put the odds at maybe 100 million to one.
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Since this thread was dragged up I'll add mine.

When I turned 21 my mother gave a 1918 DWM Luger as a present. It was stolen in 1986. I went looking for a replacement and found another 1918 DWM with the police modified toggle and unit markings for the Wolfsburg Police Department. Functions great and I once used in a service pistol match.


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I've come into two recently - a mixmaster 9mm and this matching .30:





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Almost forgot these two Lugers. Wish I could find ammo for them...





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A good friend of mine has put together a fantastic Luger collection that is probably one of the best in the world. I've been privileged to handle and photograph some of the real gems in his collection. If you are at all interested in rare Lugers, you might want to see some of my pictures of them in the album below.

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I like the Erfurt armory examples from the teens. They shoot really well. This one is a 1917 version that hadn't been shot in 75 years. I broke the firing pin on the 6th round. Had it apart here for a photo, because that's what I do when I take stuff apart. This one was chambered for 7.65x21 (.30 Luger).

They are neat pieces of machinery, and they feel great in the hand. Parts are kinda expensive. The firing pin was $40.
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I have one I paid $75 for, not much if any finish on it, but all the numbers match, including the magazine. Shoots good too, but the recoil feels strange. Hands down the best $75 I ever spent! I wish these old guns could talk..Ed.
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This is my 1908 Luger - made in 1908, not just P08. All matching numbers but not proper magazine.











Not a perfect example but pretty good. Only shot it once to make sure it worked. Don't want to risk damage to a numbered part.

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I had a 1916 DWM but traded it.....then I came into a 1936 S42 Mauser 9MM all matching including the Magazine holster w/take down tool....both are/were awesome shooters...the Mauser shoots everything....history in your hand!
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This was a WWII bring back. I acquired it in 1981 and got a wife thrown in.

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Nice lugers gentlemen

This is a 1925 Simson, made during the weimar era, it is serial number 12 - earliest known (not counting a presentation and a cutaway)

They made less than 12,000 Simson lugers and were the only ones allowed to make them during the 1920's (1925 on, a bit earlier to repair them), DWM kept making commercial and also for the police.

About 600 1925 made, and 100 1926, the rest were never dated

yes, I like lugers too
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I have several nice examples but this is the one that draws the most attention. It was found in a box in a leaking shed down South along with a badly rotted German uniform. It's a 1906 Model and I soaked it apart. After disassembly I chambered a primed only case and pulled the trigger. Yes it will still go bang!
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I got four P.08's of which one is shot regularly with reloads, it shoots as well as my P210. I love Nill grips, by the way.

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.............a NOT gun friendly local. His Father brought it back from WWII. Any info would be great appreciated as I don't know much about Lugers.

Marked Mauser 1938 the Holster has the tool and this thing in the image to the left. Holster is marked A. Fischer Berlin 1939.

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I would need to see pictures of top, and both sides

Made by Mauser, in 1938 - this is a pre-war, so not as many made. Is it a S/42 toggle?

That is a police holster, so makes me think its a police gun? I would need to see the other side, see if it has a sear safety. Any markings on the front gripstrap?

Is it all matching (except mag?)

The item to the left can be used for two purposes, one is to be an adapter to shoot 4mm or 22LR - depending on which barrel insert you have. The second purpose is as a bore guide for front end cleaning.

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.... it is all matching numbers everywhere I see a # including both magazines. No markings on the frontstrap. It has a lever safety switch.

There is a V or U on the frame right under the Sn# under the barrel. No markings on the Toggle except Mauser and the last two digits of the 4 digit SN.

the magazines also have the V or U and are marked with the SN of the gun and 1 & 2.
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Lugers, marked in the military or police, will have the last two on about 13 areas, to include, firing pin, hold open, safety lever, trigger, take down, grips, etc.

A Sear Safety is different and would be a dog-leg looking piece of metal that gos over the sideplate and is not seen in army lugers
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One day a guy walked into the shop with a Luger. It was in a paper bag. 1920 Carbine with stock. No case. The finish on it was super. Had an accelerator under the fore stock.
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If it's actually marked with the Mauser logo on the toggle, and it's dated, it is a police issue Luger. (Short delay while I get mine out of the gun room). Mine is dated 1941 and has the sear safety. On the right side, right by the chamber, on the flat it is stamped eagle 'L', which is the police proof. On the left side, in the same place, just above the serial number, is the commercial proof; on mine it's eagle over N, but the proof for a 1938 gun would be crown over crown over U (Mine is marked in acordance with the proof law of 1939 which didn't go into force much before 1940). Police Lugers got the commercial proof, not the army acceptance stamp. Mine also has the proof on the left side of the bolt, just visible above the frame.

The V or U on the front of the frame, just under the 4 digit serial number is the letter suffix for the serial number. It is part of the serial number. Numbers started at 1 and went up to 9999, then started over again with the next letter of the alphabet. Mine's a 'U".

Both magazines numbered to the gun is very rare and adds considerably to the value of the piece.

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Cyrano, I agree with you for the later Mausers (being marked civilian), I would have to look in Police Lugers to see at what point the police quit ordering their own, previously to that orders were put through the army (mostly) so you will see army acceptance marked and then police markings. The later and especially Mauser marked toggles (not S/42, byf or 42) were designed for the commercial market which means officers, police and in some events civilians in the proper authorized situations they could order.
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Cyrano, I agree with you for the later Mausers (being marked civilian), I would have to look in Police Lugers to see at what point the police quit ordering their own, previously to that orders were put through the army (mostly) so you will see army acceptance marked and then police markings. The later and especially Mauser marked toggles (not S/42, byf or 42) were designed for the commercial market which means officers, police and in some events civilians in the proper authorized situations they could order.
I''d be very interested in what you come up with. Please post here with whatever you find. If you want someone who knows a little about Lugers, I know as litle as anyone.
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