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Old 10-13-2010, 06:11 PM
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My neighbor, who's husband recently died, has this old relic cap-lock rifle (pics below), says it belong to her husband's grandfather, and want to find out its worth. It has no markings except dole "00" stamped at various locations: on the trigger guard, side plate, and all of the stock banding, nothing else. Any ideas?






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Old 10-13-2010, 06:20 PM
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These guys might help. ask for Joe.
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Old 10-13-2010, 06:50 PM
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It resembles a Enfield 1853
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I believe it to be a 1842 U.S. regulation musket. It should be .69cal. Manufactured at either Springfield or Harpers Ferry. If rifling is present then it would be a 1842 rifle musket.

The lack of any identifing stamps could or might mean it was a confederate copy of the 1842. Or I could be completely wrong.

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I'm going to opine that it is an Austrian musket that was imported early in the Civil War. (Both sides sent purchasing commissions to Europe early on and they were buying anything that would shoot.)
I sold one of these a few years ago and the nose-cap is a fairly unique shape. I also remember that the lock plate was marked only with a number that also was on most of the other parts.
You might pull it out of the stock as there should be proofs on the side or bottom of the barrel.

Some place I have pictures of the one I had. I'll see if I can dig them out.
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I'd post those photos here:

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Found some of the pictures of the Austrian Musket I mentioned.

Here's the Lock, Nosecap (The ramrod shown is wrong) and the rear sight (Also unique)

I seem to remember reading somewhere that the soldiers that were issued these didn't like them because they kicked like a mule. (Something to do with the stock design.)
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And the answer is: Austrian M1854 Lorenz Musket.

Thanks for your help - The lady will keep it to hang over her fireplace mantle.

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