Who can I.D. this old revolver. It's .32 cal., but not a S&W.

could be an h&r or a iver johnson...

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George Jamison

It's not an H&R or Iver Johnson. It is probably one of the numerous inexpensive revolvers made for a small volumne client by Hopkins and Allen. The grips are definately H&A, as used by H&A on several models, including Merwin & Hulberts, however this gun is not an M&H. There should be some type of stamping on the barrel rib, that would be a clue as to the origin of the gun. What are the numbers/marks under the grips? Ed.

It is actually a Thames .32. The imprint in top of the barrel is barely visible,and needed to be read with a magnifing glass. Although it looks fairly well made for it's age, I don't believe they were considered a top quality gun.

Thames Arms Co. was in Norwich, Conn. They made inexpensice top break revolvers , circa 1890-1900s. They assembled their guns from parts bought from other manufacturers, with few parts actually made in their factory. I have seen, .32s and .38s., nickel plated. I've never seen any other calibers or a blued Thames, not to say they don't exist. Ed.

I threw a Thames .38 in the East River in New York City a few years ago.
The humor value of doing so outweighed the value of the gun to me.

Wow, twaits, that was a Thames? That's hilarious!

To the rest of the forum, I can confirm what twaits says is true. He threw an old top break into the East River in NYC. I know because I was there, and I also threw an old top break revolver into the East River at the same place and time! I don't recall the make or model of the one I chucked, it was in very bad condition.

We've always had this running joke about all the guns that have likely been tossed into the East River in New York over the years, especially from the 1890-1940 period. So, we decided we needed to personally contribute!

Hmmm...kind of makes me wonder if during the height of Prohibition were there ever any instances of boats or barges running "aground" when passing under the Brooklyn Bridge, on what turned out to be a giant underwater pile of Iver Johnson pistols??? I for one certainly hope so!!!!

There are plenty more in the Hudson River too.

Back in 1972 or so I worked at the NYPD vehicle impound lot. A story I heard was a vehicle was towed in for illegal parking that had a loaded .45 under the seat. After cracking off the entire mag. the pistol was thrown into the river, as the impound lot was a old pier at 55th st. It's probably laying on top of many others in the Hudson.
At least thats the story I heard, one never knows what is true and what is BS.

I have another plan for the Thames,,I'm going to display it in a small shadowbox along with these.
Cuffs may be worth more then the gun.

Those cuffs are cool. What's the story on those?

wow If these cuffs could talk,great item

I found out the origin of the cuffs back when I got them a few years ago. I have since forgot what make they were. If I remember right they were made in England, but don't hold me to that.

When I get chance I will try to locate the info again. Maybe I should write it down this time.

Whitecoyote might be able to identify them. I think he's on this forum.
He collect police stuff