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Old 11-13-2010, 05:43 PM
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I've been on the web looking at the new Ithaca Model 37 shotgun with the scaled down 28 ga frame. Wondering if any of you own one or have had one in your hands? If so what do you think?

I like the looks of what I see except for the pad.
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I drool over that pic often. Would love to give one to my Dad for his Bday or Christmas.
I feel the same way about the pad. Why? It's a 28 gauge. All the makers seem to have an infatuation with "recoil" pads nowadays.
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I curse the day I sold my Ithaca M37 Featherwight, it was in 12 ga. however. I do like the Ithaca M37, but would shy away from 28 gauge because it is somewhat of an obscure gauge. I would opt for a 12 or 20. In 12 ga. there are a gazillion different types and loadings, 20 is at least available in most stores, but 28 ga. is a bit hard to come by these days. What is the primary purpose of this shotgun? If it's for hunting the 12 or 20 will suit most needs, for defense work I would definitely go for the 12, (unless your wife requires a bit less recoil).
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The Ithaca 28 Gauge Model 37 II


I would dearly love to have one but it's not going to happen for a while.
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Only seen the pictures.
Going to be a tuff sell I think.
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I've wanted one for a bit. I too hate the recoil pad. A nice steel plate would be my first choice, as it's a bird gun and the last thing you need is a pad grabbing your shirt or vest.

Also, I called and talked with the guys concerning the new Fiocchi 28ga tundra 3" loads, and according to them it should feed and eject them if the chamber was lengthened. The chamber on these guns is 2 3/4" as it comes from the factory. Not that I'd shoot many or any of them, but was curious in case I wanted to shoot a honker with it at close range.

They also stated that all the receivers are engraved with that big "28 gauge" billboard, which I don't care for either.
I guess I'll stick with my little Japanese Browning model 12 in 28 gauge for now.
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Re; 28 ga. vs 20 ga. Drop into your favorite big box store selling shotgun ammo and price out a case of 28 ga. shotshells and then price out a case of 20 ga. shotshells. The premium they want for 28 ga. is enough to keep me on the 20 ga. side of the issue. .......... I do like the Ithaca Model 37. ............... Big Cholla
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I've handled those M-12 repros, in the high grade, too. Nice...

One of the best recent shotguns. But I'd prefer the 20 ga.

I think the 28 is mainly a specialty quail gun. Like the 16 ga., shells are harder to find and cost more and lack variety.

I wish that Ithacagun posted sharper photos on their site.

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I wish that Ithacagun posted sharper photos on their site.
*I* wish Ithaca Gun was still made in Ithaca... but I'm biased.

Those 28s sure look elegant, but aren't suitable for the hunting I do (not many upland birds in upstate NY). A lightweight 20ga would be a much better bet - and is on the wish list.
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I recently purchased this Ithaca 12 Gauge Defender. All I can say is WOW! It's a fantastic shotgun.

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Neat gun, but as others have pointed out, the pad and the engraving are non-starters in my book. I've got an early '50's M37 in 16 ga. I picked up several years ago, the metal was about 90% and while the wood didn't have any serious dents/dings, it definitely needed to be refinished; a nice gun, but not collector quality, so I didn't mind modifying it. I refinished the wood with a nice reddish/brown finish identical to the finish on pre-'64 Winchester's and had the 28" barrel cut back to 26" and threaded for choke tubes. I don't shoot it that often, but it's a great handling shotgun!

I's like to pick up another 28 ga., but think I'd go after one of the Jap repop M12's in 28 ga. long before the new Ithaca 28 ga in its current config. Make some cosmetic changes and I'd consider it.
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Each to his own, but I like recoil pads on shotguns, especially those as light as the M-37. I like their looks, too.
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As a special order item only & requiring 50% down before they start making one,, I guess there won't be too many around to see in shops.

At $1000 for the plain version and those funky lines to the butt stock,,I think I'd rather go for one of the M12 28ga Winchester repros if I was actually in the market for a pump 28.

The original M12 28's were built on the 20ga frame,,I'd guess the repros are too.

I'll stick with the Winchester 42 as long as we're going small.

The Remington Model 17 is a nice alternative in the small bore lightweight pump shotgun market.
Great handling shotgun. Many around have a raised solid rib.
But they're not a 28!,,,and not a new gun by any stretch which is a concern to many buyers.

They don't list the weight of the Ithaca 28 (or else I missed it), but the Remington is around 5 3/4 lbs.

I like the new Ithaca one piece barrel and vent rib lugs. No soldered on lugs.
Perhaps it's just easier & cheaper to produce if you have the correct machine tooling that's available today than the old method but it's still a nice feature.

I'd avoid a pad on a shotgun designed as a lightweight, but don't find them objectionable otherwise if they're leather covered.
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The one other option I've looked at, is the Browning BPS in 28ga. Agreed, it isn't American made, it is a nice little piece.

I just hate the fact it has chokes.
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I love my BPS, but since 28ga. ammo is so ridiculously priced...I haven't shot it in years.

I visited Ithaca at the Shot Show, fit & finish on the new guns is incredible... but a price tag to match. Speaking of match, their new .45 acp guns are something to drool over too!
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I love my BPS, but since 28ga. ammo is so ridiculously priced...I haven't shot it in years.
Yes, but unless you're shooting skeet, and if you are, you're definitely going to be reloading, you will not be shooting that many rounds, so the ammo cost really isn't that much of a concern, IMO. That said, I only have one 28 ga., a Beretta 686, but I don't shoot it that often. Not due to the cost of ammo, I've got almost a full flat of 28's, I seem to prefer shooting a 20 ga.
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Every time I see something beautiful like that first thing I do is check Ammo prices and general availability.
.28 ga is a special order proposition down here.
Ditto with 45-70. Much as I covet a stainless guide gun or a stainled #1 I ain't paying $36 for a box of 20.
I've got guns that shoot 30-30, 30-06, .223 .44 .357/.38 9mm .45 ACP .22 12ga & 20 ga. Try walking into the gas station in the middle of bumfork and asking for a box of .28 ga spreader loads or some 9mm makarov or some .357 Sig or a box of .567 whompenstomper
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I think the 28 suffers for some of the same reasons the 16 does (I love my 16's! They're old.). It's built on the next gauge up frame these days.
I'm pretty sure the BPS is a 20 ga frame, as is the Model 12. This makes the gun heavier, which plain sucks.
Like Steave said, I'd rather shoot the 20...

Now that Franchi 48AL would be a treat! But talk about making expensive empty hulls in a hurry!!
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I think the 28 suffers for some of the same reasons the 16 does (I love my 16's! They're old.). It's built on the next gauge up frame these days.
Yep, I think all, or at least most, of the 16's made in the past 30 years or so have been made on 12 ga frames. I've got a few 16's, the M37 mentioned above along with a Rem. 11-48 and several Winchester Model 12's; all are true 16 ga guns, which means they share the same size receiver as a 20 ga as opposed to a 16 built on a 12 ga receiver.

My 28 ga Beretta is built on their 20 ga frame, although Beretta offers a true 28 ga frame. Frankly, there isn't that much difference between the two, IMO, and when I bought this one I initially planed on buying the true 28 ga. However, I ran across this lightly used 686 at too good of a deal to pass up ad since there was such little difference between the two, I jumped on this one.

Around here 28 ga ammo isn't tough to find at all, walk into most any Academy, Dicks or Wal-Mart and you can buy all the 28 ga ammo ya need. In fact, the flat of 28's I've got, Winchester AA, came from Wal-Mart.
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I shoot shotgun alot, at least once a week, sometimes more.
It's the ammo price rather than availability (around here) that would make me turn to reloading the 28.

I did that with the 410 when I started shooting one. Even with a simple single stage MEC, I can turn out enough rounds in an hour to satisfy a morning at the skeet range and then some.

Those 1/2oz loads in the 410 and the standard 3/4oz in the 28 make a bag of shot last a long time.
You recoup the cost of the reloader quickly (I think it was $75 at the time) when you figure what they charge for a box of the small shells.

But a couple people I know just feel comfortable shooting factory stuff and resell the emptys to get some of their $$ back.
They don't want to be bothered or don't have the time/space for reloading.
There's never a problem selling 410 or 28ga emptys around a gun club either.
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My 28 gauge Darne definitely isn't built on a 20 gauge frame; it must not weigh much over 5 pounds. Unfortunately the stock doesn't have enough drop for me, so when I hold it high enough on my shoulder to see down the barrels, the toe of the butt digs into my shoulder and leaves a bruise even with the light recoil of the 28.
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I bought one and love it. Comes up fast like a toy and you can carry it all day. My go to grouse gun.
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I clicked on the above link and had a good chuckle. Apparently, the new Ithaca Gun Company's logo includes the words "Where's Your Gun Made?"

Well, my Ithaca Model 37 was made in Ithaca, New York.

These new ones...apparently it's Upper Sandusky, Ohio. Not that that is a bad thing....glad to see that you can still get one. Not sure how the quality compares to the ones made in Ithaca. Does anybody know?
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I clicked on the above link and had a good chuckle. Apparently, the new Ithaca Gun Company's logo includes the words "Where's Your Gun Made?"

Well, my Ithaca Model 37 was made in Ithaca, New York.

These new ones...apparently it's Upper Sandusky, Ohio. Not that that is a bad thing....glad to see that you can still get one. Not sure how the quality compares to the ones made in Ithaca. Does anybody know?
Last summer, while visiting relatives in Upper Sandusky, I stopped at the factory during business hours. I asked the lady at the front desk if a tour of the facility would be possible. She said, no problem, walked back to get the person in charge (don't know his title) and proceeded to get a thorough walk through.

Beginning in the showroom, there were lots of shotguns on display (don't recall seeing any 28ga) In the factory area, I could see at a distance machining, assembly, and stocks being worked on. As expected liability issues prohibited a closer look.

Having owned 2 mod37's in my youth I, too was interested in maintaining the same quality in the new guns that I enjoyed in the old ones. In, fact, I asked that very question. He answered in the affirmative, that they are doing their best to turn out quality firearms.
I walked away with the feeling that in this relatively small facility, they are trying to revive the Ithaca name. I hope it continues to grow and prosper.
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I reckon it's a bit late for a report, but I have one of the Model 37's in 28 ga. and it's a wonderful little gun. I've used it for several years now on quail, chukar partridge and pheasants hunted over dogs. It's lively, light, reliable, points well, and the little 28 is very effective. The more I use it in the Ithaca, the better I like the gun and gauge both. I recommend it highly if you get a chance to pick one up sometime.
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28 gauge is a specialty round, but is a lot of fun. When I want to try and sharpen up my skeet shooting I put the 28 gauge barrel on my SKB. My old eyes don't seem to be good enough for the .410 any more.
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Have not seen a 28g, but I saw one of the new Ithaca 12s. Very
nice, well made fit and finish. Ammo would be a little rough up
here in the Midwest, but down in Quail & Dove country I would
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