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A nice 1917 S&W and some other WWI guns
I picked up a very nice 1917 S&W a few months ago and added it the other pistols from that era?? The S&W is definately better looking!
Thanks for looking,
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Hi english;
I'll see 'em all up for you, looking at your photographs. That's just the kind of stuff that really "floats my boat." Your 1911 is particularly nice and the others are just fine too.
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That is a nice looking S&W.The 1911 is exceptional also.Both are seldom seen in that condition.
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Well, one thing for sure, in the looks department, the Webley comes in dead last!
Thanks for posting these. That is a great collection of arms from the winning side of WWI.
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The S&W is certainly a much better looking revolver than the Colt.
The 1911 is a dandy. I am envious of you owning both the 1917 Smith and the 1911.
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On the other hand, if the Webley is still in 0.455, it will be running long after the others have died! Also it can be used as a hammer if necessary and still shoot!!Dave_n
Could not resist as I have 4 Mk VIs.
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On the other hand, if the Webley is still in 0.455, it will be running long after the others have died! Also it can be used as a hammer if necessary and still shoot!!Dave_n
Could not resist as I have 4 Mk VIs.
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I have a 1917 and a Webley Mk VI. If I want to be proud of something at the range, I would carry the 1917 every time. If I was in a dark muddy trench I would want the Webley and some extra full moon clips. The combat ergonomics of that thing are awesome.
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Very nice WWI guns! I especially like the Colt 1911, it looks like it was built in 1917, I have one just like it.
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Welcome to the Forum, Calvin.
"If I was in a dark muddy trench I would want the Webley and some extra full moon clips. The combat ergonomics of that thing are awesome."
The Webley was chambered in .455, which is a rimmed cartridge. The 1917 revolvers, both Colt and S&W, used .45 ACP rounds held in half moon clips. The full moon clips didn't appear until sometime in the 1970s, IIRC.
Now there were speedloaders made for the Webley. And many, many Webleys were rechambered for .45 ACP/.45 AutoRim and imported into the US after WW II. I have a MK V in .45 ACP/.45 AutoRim that I enjoy shooting.
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Air Cammando, You are correct. It was shipped Jan3,1918 to Greens Piers, N.J., Ordanance Depot No. 6 A.E.F., France. One of 5000 sent to commanding officer. The condotion is about 97%. Can anyone place a ball park figure?
Comments are appreciated, (Muley Gil, Thanks for the added information!)
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Better pictures of the 1911.
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I don't mean to hijack your thread, Joe, but I am interested in value, too, because I have about $2,000 in this 1917 rig. The grips are REM-UMC, which were installed in 1918 in a field disassembly and cleaning. Your gun looks all original.
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Welcome to the Forum, Calvin.
"If I was in a dark muddy trench I would want the Webley and some extra full moon clips. The combat ergonomics of that thing are awesome."
The Webley was chambered in .455, which is a rimmed cartridge. The 1917 revolvers, both Colt and S&W, used .45 ACP rounds held in half moon clips. The full moon clips didn't appear until sometime in the 1970s, IIRC.
Now there were speedloaders made for the Webley. And many, many Webleys were rechambered for .45 ACP/.45 AutoRim and imported into the US after WW II. I have a MK V in .45 ACP/.45 AutoRim that I enjoy shooting.
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Thank you for the welcome. I should have stipulated that my Webley VI is a .45ACP conversion. I was imagining having one or the other as I use them today, not necessarily as they were then. Change it to a darkened house while investigating broken window noises if you like. I would still prefer the Webley with a couple extra full moon clips. They both compete for my affection as they are my only centerfire revolvers. I love them both very much.
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"...my Webley VI is a .45ACP conversion."
I have read advice that one shouldn't use .45 ACP level loads in a converted Webley, as the pressures are about 25% higher than the original .455.
That said, I have shot a fair amount of .45 ACP through my converted MK V with no problems. I may back off a bit for it though next time I load some ammo.
"Change it to a darkened house while investigating broken window noises if you like."
On my nightstand is a .45 ACP Mountain Gun with an extra full moon clip of HydraShocks. There is also a SureFire G2 flashlight. My choice for home defense.
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