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I've seen a number of posts about Savage pistols and thought I would share mine. I've been collection them for years.

I'm not sure why they have never really caught on more than they have. They were the first high capacity - staggered magazine - pistol. They are very well made and function flawlessly. I don't think I've ever had a fail to feed or misfire with a Savage. There are many different variations. The only model with no variations is the 1915, but they were only made a very short time.

The first group of pictures show the three different models - 1907, 1915 (hammerless with grip safety) & 1917. Top pistol is a .380, bottom a .32
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These pics show the three different safety levers on the 1907. First model "dished", very early 2nd model "full round", and the final "half round" used throughout production.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:17 AM
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Different variations of the 1907. 1) Early rear sight, metal grips, burr hammer - 2) rear sight made as a part of the slide, burr hammer, wide slide serrations, hard rubber grips - 3) burr hammer, thin slide serrations - 4) spur hammer.
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With and without loaded chamber indicator. It was only used a limited time.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:23 AM
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Frame stamps. Some had them, some didn't. All model 1915 had the large SAVAGE stamp above the grip.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:30 AM
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There were nickel, gold, different degrees of engraving, special grips etc etc. I would highly recommend Bailey Brower's book, even if you don't collect Savages. The book is very inexpensive and shows all the different models and variations.
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I used to have a parkerized 1917 (refinished) in .380. Enjoyed it until one day on my range I took the safety off and the gun discharged (pointed down range). Thanks for the pictures.

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I used to have a parkerized 1917 (refinished) in .380. Enjoyed it until one day on my range I took the safety off and the gun discharged (pointed down range). Thanks for the pictures.

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These pistols were not designed to be carried "cocked & locked" there should never be a reason to have a round in the chamber, the hammer cocked and the safety on. These are well very well made pistols but they are antiques and should never be used for carry, home defense, or anything other than collecting and SAFE range shooting.

I would say the same thing about a Luger, another very well made pistol, but of a very obsolete design.

I would also NEVER attempt to let the hammer down on a Savage pistol with a round in the chamber, the hammer spring is too strong.
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Thanks for the write up, history and photo's. Now I know what I've got! A 1907 in .380 with the loaded chamber indicator.
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Geed, Your presentation on the Savage pistol was excellent. I will save this thread.
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An uncle had one when I was a kid. It was the first handgun I carried concealed, quite illegally, I'm sure. I was about 12.

It felt pretty good in the hand. I think it was a M-1907, a.32.

I'm almost sure that the wider grooves on the slide (as compared to Colt, etc.) and the safety issues were what killed it, along with NY laws. And many didn't trust autos yet.

France and Portugal issued some in .32.

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Very informative and well put together thread Jeed. I have looked a few of these over the years and may end up with one yet.
You have a fine collection. Thanks for sharing.
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Jeed,

They are interesting pistols. Mine was a range gun, not a carry piece. AD happened on the range between strings of fire. Thanks again for sharing.

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I have 4. Wonderful little pistols.
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Old 02-04-2011, 11:52 PM
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There's a few for sale out here. $250 -$325 or so. They are pretty interesting. did you ever see "The Road To Perdition" with tom hanks as a gangster hitman? Jude Law uses one of these to great effect. This reminds me of another forgotten but well respected little auto. In the 60's my dad had a Remington Model 51 .380. Everytime I see a classy little Savage like yours I start counting my spending money. You have some great little guns there. check out that movie if you haven't already.
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I've got a rough 1907 and a couple of 101s. I like the Savage line of handguns. I'd sure like to have a 45, but it ain't likely I ever will.
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Great thread. Here's my two. A 1907 from 1913 and a 1917 from '22-'26.
I just picked up the 1917 for $175



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I had one many years ago. Saw a ton of the little beauties at the
Savage Fest in Ohio last fall, and got a copy of the book as a door prize. I haven't dared open the book, as Smiths and Savage 99's already consume about 150% of my available gun money.
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Which is your favorite? I am just beginning to look around for one and I know I'll come upon a bargain at some point, but which should I lean toward?
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Jeed: you would have enjoyed the Ft Worth Gun Show a couple of weeks ago. Someone had a whole table full of Savages, all for sale. All sorts of models, calibers and varieties. And back in the corner was a honkin' big one in 45 ACP caliber. It was parkerized and I don't think that was the original finish. Early in the show it had a price tag of $27K, but later the tag was gone and perhaps he decided to keep it. I eyed that thing for several minutes; it will be a long time before I see another.

I only have one Savage, a M 1907 in 32, with a lanyard loop installed in France in WW I. It has the proper holster with two magazine pouches. The gurus at the National Automatic Pistol Collector's Association identify two different types of holsters, based on the type of buttons used to secure the magazine pouch flaps; but that's a little beyond me.

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Thanks everyone for their kind words, I had forgotten about this thread.

Here's some other Savage stuff to be on the lookout for.....

These books can bring more than a gun, if you see one for under 100.00 you could probably double your money.

The pistol watch fobs are very hard to find, the indian head is pretty common, but watch out for repos. The indian heads are sterling marked on back.
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WWI French contract 1907 pistol and holster set. The French contract pistols had a lanyard loop.

There were also Portuguese contract 1907's, they had grip panels made with the Portuguese crest in place of the indian head. It's my understanding that most of the grips with the crest were changed out for the indian head grips when they were brought back into the country. Anyway, the Portuguese crest grips are very rare, and it is possible to mistake a Portuguese contract for a French contract. The only way to know for sure is the serial # range.

A couple of different models of Audley Folsom holsters made for the Savages. They a pretty hard to come up with too!

Thanks again everyone.
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Jeed, you have a nice Savage collecton. I just added my 5th to my collection. It is a Model 1915 I never thought I would have, but here it is! I'm sorry, but I disagree with your caution about carrying the Savage pistol. Personally, I wouldn't own a firearm I didn't consider safe, and afraid to carry. All my Savages are A-1, in excellent mechanical shape, and I wouldn't hesitate to carry them anywhere, loaded but with the safety on, of course.
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My sole example, an ordinary .32 caliber Model 1907 in decent albeit not terrific condition, but it is complete and has the original magazine (I see a lot that don't for whatever reason).
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I just purchased a Savage .380 model 1907 or 1914 pistol. The seller didn't know if it took standard .380 acp ammo. I mainly bought it for collecting but will my gun safely load & fire modern .380 acp ammo. Appreciate any info on this fine Savage pistol.
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Who says you can't still carry them?
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I may have missed this in someone's post and it may be off topic but didn't Savage submit a model in .45ACP for the military trials a little over 100 years ago?
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Here's two variations of the Savage 45, the first from the NRA collection (much rarer), the second from Springfield Armory NHS. I wonder if Bailey Brower is gong to write a book on the Savage pistol. I know he has spoken on them at National Automatic Pistol Collectors association meetings.

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Jeed,

Thanks so much for the very informative article on the Savage 1907 & 1917 Models.
I just recently bought a 1917 & a few things didn't seem right, to the point where I was convinced I had been ripped off.

There were the more ample serrations & hammer-like cocker on it, but it came with a 1907 magazine that wouldn't lock into place.
Further inspection & research revealed no markings on the frame denoting it as a "Savage Model 1917" & the grips had no screws in them --- exactly as one would expect to see on the 1907.

The pictures you showed in posts #3 & #5 gave me so much insight and relief --- I was convinced that I'd had a cobbled-together amalgamation of different model-year pistols fobbed off on me.

Again, thank you so very. very much for such a concise & detailed write-up on these beautiful pistols which were truly ahead of their time.

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I've seen a number of posts about Savage pistols and thought I would share mine. I've been collection them for years.

I'm not sure why they have never really caught on more than they have. They were the first high capacity - staggered magazine - pistol. They are very well made and function flawlessly. I don't think I've ever had a fail to feed or misfire with a Savage. There are many different variations. The only model with no variations is the 1915, but they were only made a very short time.

The first group of pictures show the three different models - 1907, 1915 (hammerless with grip safety) & 1917. Top pistol is a .380, bottom a .32
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Well I see we have reactivated a nearly eight year old post! That's okay as I must have missed it first time and it made me order the book? OP, what price range can you find these interesting pistols in? I used to see them often at gun shows but not lately.
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