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Old 01-29-2011, 10:18 PM
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I'm thinkin' Savage SXS or Marlin 90 O/U...

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Old 01-29-2011, 10:33 PM
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The Savage guns are ticking upward in price. 410 double guns are shooting way up. Their was an article about the Marilins in Double Gun journal lately
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I had a Savage BST 12 Ga. years ago. Had to sell it to pay some wifes Dr. bills. Sure reget it.
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Savage Fox guns are a good value for a field gun. The BSE's are getting pricey in better condition. So aren't the small frame guns. You can still find them, but it is getting harder.
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:35 AM
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Ruger Gold label???
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Not American but I would think that the Browning Side by Side would qualify. A well made bun with the Browning name. Noting not to like.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:03 PM
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Remington 870 Wingmaster. They made a lot of them but the nicer ones I'm seeing have climbed in price recently.
Remington 1100s also for the same reasons.
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The modern Parker and L.C. Smith repros are a pretty good bet.
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Most any small bore in collectable condition by even an obscure maker will get some attention, a 410 or 28ga especially. They always have.

I've seen Cresent Mfg 410 SxS shotguns in barely 'good' condition sell for unbelievable prices. The same gun & condition in 12 or even 20 ga would hardly get a glance from most people and usually go begging for a buyer. That 410 bore certainly does pull alot of interest and buyers.

Even the less popular collectable shotgun models or brands made some higher grades and those have come along recently. Add in the small bore factor and even now their prices are up there.

The price of even lower grade collectable condition Parker, Fox, Lefever, Ithaca, LCSmith, etc guns has taken off and is getting un-affordable to alot of people so they are looking elsewhere to collect.

Even the Stevens 311 and it's varients (Fox B, BSE, BST,,these all made by Savage) if in collectable condition are getting noticed.

High(er) grade guns from mfg'rs like Aubrey, Lefever ('A' grade nitro's#'s 5 & 6-made by Ithaca), the Marlin 90, Hopkins & Allen (made some spectacular high grade guns), Iver Johnson high grade SxS's(they were for the most part imports from Europe so might not be considered here, but for a few years did mfr high gradesin the US)..
Baker shotguns have a following already but the prices are still affordable for them compared to the other big names. Just another one that hasn't quite caught the mainstream of collectors interest.

It's even been only recently that Colt sxs shotguns both the hammer and the hammerless models, have begun taking in the money they deserve. Collectors still argue wether they were made here or in England, but I'll leave that alone.
For some reason even with the name, they could not get the collector recognition that the other high profile names have gotten.
I think you can put Remington SxS's into that same catagory. Their high grade guns always had collectors interest, but never the same widespread popularity as the other big names. Prices were always somewhat lower for a comparable grade gun. Recently that has changed. Their high grade guns will stack up against any made in that era BTW.

Shooter grade/condition field guns are just that. In this group of shotguns anything less than a very high condition field gun or a factory engraved/checkered high grade gun is still pretty much considered an entry level hunting gun with minimal value.

Accumulating them can end up being the easy part. Trying to find a good buyer and sell at a profit after holding them for years is another.

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Great post.... Am in total agreement on your assessment of the smaller bore guns. Think that the smaller frame size matters. My early Fox B in 20 gauge is on the small frame, making it a much different gun then the 12 or 16 gauge.

Marlin 90's are in a class of their own. They are striker fired,coil sprung wonders with a great ejector system. Best O/U that I own is one made in 1949 by them. It is nearly mint, and it cost $350 when I bought it.
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Could my Savage 24B-DL, 22 Mag over 20 Gauge actually be worth something???
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The modern Parker and L.C. Smith repros are a pretty good bet.
A friend of mine hunts with a Parker Reproduction BHE grade steel shot special specifically designed for steel duck loads. Double triggers splinter forend-an absolutely gorgeous gun. I thing there are only 2-3 steel shot specials in the B grade from what he told me. He had it made back before they decided to tear down the factory and use the land for a golf course.
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Absolutely,

Up here in Maine, the 24's bring a good dollar. Like everything, depends on which iteration and condition. I see them starting at 3 Ftanklins in good condition going up to the $600 range for a early model in great shape.
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How about the Remington 3200s? To me they are a heavy, clunky design but they are holding their value pretty well from what I see on the auction sites, especially the high grade target models. Yes, they were American made.
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The Ruger Gold Label for certain. They are likely never going to come back and are likely the last American made side x side ever to be made by a major American firearms company. Glad I got mine when I did!

Ditto the Browning BSS, eventhough it is made by Miroku. Although small gauges were always premium, they have gone through the roof now and the 12 bores are climbing, especially in certain configurations. Also glad to have a couple of them. Man, it's crazy to think what they went for 20 years ago.

The Winchester 23, also a Japanese made gun, is doing well. Although never a cheap gun, it is starting to gain some of the 21's cachet.

The S&W Elite Gold Turkish made SxSs are a good bet as well. Nicely made guns.

The Win 101s seem to be holding their ground, while the venerable Browning Auto 5 is losing it. Browning Superposeds are always a good bet. Ruger Red Labels seem to be making gains, or at least going up in price. Very durable and serviceable guns. Oddly enough, the rather unattractive All-Weather 12ga models seem to be commmanding much higher prices at least from what I see, eventhough at one time they were difficult to give away.

Savage/Fox guns are a classic American SxS, always treated poorly, but are solid, durable, and handle pretty well in the 20 bore size. While they cannot be expected to make great gains and certainly are only showing modest growth around here, I like 'em a lot. I have a few small bores.

The L.C. Smith has always been a great American classic, the only true American sidelock. While higher grades ones have always been strong, good condition field grade Elsies are becoming harder to find reasonable, especially in small guages.

I really can't think of any American autoloaders that will ever be considered true collectibles.
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I don't know how collectible they are, but I would love to find a Winchester Model 1200 Stainless Marine. They are about as scarce as hen's teeth.
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