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02-01-2011, 02:33 AM
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Beretta 92FS FTE
I know others on here have the Beretta 92FS. Well, mine will FTE or stove pipe unless I oil the rails every 200-300 or so rounds. The pistol has approx 2500 rounds through it. Should I be using a heavier grease? I use Hoppe's lub oil or Rem oil whatever I have w/me. It is field stripped and cleaned after each range visit and the ramp is cleaned but not polished. Anyone else encounter this?
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02-01-2011, 02:51 AM
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Have you replaced the recoil spring? Have you cleaned out the mags? Have you tried the berretta forum?
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02-01-2011, 09:07 AM
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I have a 92f and have never had a problem with it; however I do not shoot it that much. I am a member on the Beretta forum and have never heard anyone mention this problem but, it still would not hurt to check in over there as there are more guys over there with lots more experience with them than I. Good luck on solving your problem.
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02-01-2011, 09:41 AM
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Try grease instead of oil on the rails. Also, make sure your mags are factory (Beretta, MDS or MecGar). Berettas can be finicky with aftermarket mags.
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02-01-2011, 09:42 AM
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Try Break-Free. I feel that Rem Oil is too light and doesn't stay on the gun well. I quit using it.
Also, check to be certain that no crud has built up around the extractor hook.
My son used the M-9 in Iraq, where very fine sand is a major menace to weapons. As long as he kept the gun clean and used ONLY Beretta or Mec-Gar mags, he did fine. Others using cheaper GI replacement mags did occasionally encounter issues.
I use the same name on the Beretta forum, BTW. Join us there. It's a useful place. And someone there may have a better answer for you than I did.
You aren't shooting any really smoky ammo, are you?
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02-01-2011, 10:16 AM
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What kind of ammunition are you using?
Back in college, my best friend had a similar problem with his Browning Hi Power. The slide would go back just far enough to cock the hammer, retaining the empty case in the chamber. When he loaded his ammunition, he turned to the wrong page in the Hornady manual and loaded 9x19mm to .380acp levels.
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02-01-2011, 12:01 PM
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I doubt it has anything to do with "brand" of oil. Do not grease it. Rem Oil or CLP is fine.
As SRGVAZ stated: Recoil Spring and Correct Mag (they also need springs at time) would be my course of correction.
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I have a taurus 92 never no jams, I never oil or grease the rails. The taurus is a copy of the beretta.
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I have see only one failure with a Beretta 92FS; it was on a civilian range, and some lube got it back in action. These guns need proper maintenance and lube to function properly. There is no such thing as a maintenance-free firearm.
The biggest failure of the Beretta 92 series is that they are in 9mm instead of .45 ACP. That we should saddle our troops with such an ineffective caliber is a travesty. NATO interchangeability be damned; give our fighting forces something that works in defeating the enemy. Our special forces demand .45s; our regular troops deserve no less. Their lives are just as valuable.
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Originally Posted by PALADIN85020
I have see only one failure with a Beretta 92FS; it was on a civilian range, and some lube got it back in action. These guns need proper maintenance and lube to function properly. There is no such thing as a maintenance-free firearm.
The biggest failure of the Beretta 92 series is that they are in 9mm instead of .45 ACP. That we should saddle our troops with such an ineffective caliber is a travesty. NATO interchangeability be damned; give our fighting forces something that works in defeating the enemy. Our special forces demand .45s; our regular troops deserve no less. Their lives are just as valuable.
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Absolutely. They make high cap 45's now. But then there is the bean counters that x amount of 9 vs x amount of 45 and a 9mm takes 3 guys out of the fight (one wounded and two to carry him off etc, etc)
Same logic as you can't use hollow points We can blow up, air strikes, mines, napalm. shot gun but lets not kill the enemy with a HP.
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OK, I need to order recoil springs for the Smiths so that will be an easy fix. This is an ex law enforcement pistol with the original mags. I haven't cleaned them yet, a good idea. At the WAC gun show in Puyallop a few weeks ago I bought 1000 rounds of 115 gr in once fired brass for $165, and yes, it is very smokey. Thanks for the tips. I like this pistol as it is more accurate at 30 yards than my 5906 or 3913.
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The first thing I do when buying a used gun, especially one that is know to be shot a lot is get new springs, That way you are starting out knowing what you have. The are cheap and solve many problems.
Wolff springs is the place to go. The make a lot of the factory springs.
Wolff Gunsprings - Firearm Springs for Semi-Auto Pistols, Revolvers, Rifles, & Shotguns
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