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Old 12-31-2011, 04:42 PM
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I picked up a Remiington 513-t 22 long rifle today. Date code on barrel is EL and it has U.S.Property stamped on both the barrel and receiver. There is a cartouche and the initials FJA on the left side of the stock. Sights are a military front post and a Redfield rear peep. Condition I would estimate at 80% overall. No rust and a bright clean bore.
Would anyone hazard a guess as to its actual value?
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Congratulations on acquiring a fine rifle, one which many would be happy to own. Can't help with details in answer to your question, but 'not cheap' is my guess, especially if the condition exceeds 80%, or if you are being modest.

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Frank J. Atwood Cartouche........nice! Hard to say anything on the value, but someone over on Rimfire Central might be able to help you. They helped me date my 511-P to November of 1941 in about five minutes. Very helpful folks, and very knowledgeable........just like here.
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Thanks for the information. I got the old girl cleaned up this morning. I think she may be in better shape than I first thought. More research is in line.
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when I was in high school in the middle 1960's there was a rifle team and a range in the basement of the building. I believe the 22 rifles were "on loan" from the army and they may have supplied the ammo for all I know. the rifles I believe were Remingtons with the heavy barrels. I don't remember the model number after all of these years. I wonder where the rifles are at or even if people realize there was an indoor rifle range in the basement. times have changed I guess.
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I usually see US property marked 513-T's priced at between $350-$400 in nice condition. I paid $300 for mine about 10 years ago and was satisfied to pay that price.
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when I was in high school in the middle 1960's there was a rifle team and a range in the basement of the building. I believe the 22 rifles were "on loan" from the army and they may have supplied the ammo for all I know. the rifles I believe were Remingtons with the heavy barrels. I don't remember the model number after all of these years. I wonder where the rifles are at or even if people realize there was an indoor rifle range in the basement. times have changed I guess.
About the same time I was in ROTC in Houston. Our range was in the ROTC "shack"...no basements in Houston! We qualified with 513Ts and had Remington 40Xs for the rifle team, all property of the Army via the Houston Military Property Custodian.

In 1967, I coached the girls rifle team. We used the 513T because it was just a little lighter and the LOP was about 1/2" shorter than the 40X. The 40X was the "prestige" rifle, but the 513Ts shot just as well.

My last "offical act" as a high school student was to submit a serial numbered items report to the ROTC Commandant. I still have a copy of it some where (a carbon copy...anyone remember those?). I remember the weapons section listed 103 M1s, 5 M1 carbines, 6 40Xs, 7 513Ts, 1 3.5 in rocket launcher, and 1 1919A4 Browning maching gun.

Those days are long gone and will never return.
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I'd say $300-$400 would be a good guess. Your rifle was made in Oct 1942 and they are great shooting rifles. I paid $165 for mine quite a few years ago and it has been a nice rifle. Resist the urge to refinish it and destroy its history. Just clean and enjoy.
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Blue book shows $250 for 80%!
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I had to have one of these. Back in 1951-55 I shot on the college ROTC rifle team. For the first three years we had Springfield M2s, for the last year we got 513 Ts. They wre amazingly accurate, although at the time I liked the stock on the Springfield because it fit my cheek better. My curent one has the post front sight, although I think some were issued with the Lyman 17 globe front sight. I didn't know these things had a coded date stamp on them: I'll have to give mine the once over.
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I didn't know these things had a coded date stamp on them: I'll have to give mine the once over.

They are Remingtons. The date code is the same used on all Remington firearms. It is not an Army code! You will find a 2 or 3 letter code on the left side of the barrel just above the stock line and just in front of the receiver. If the gun has not been re-finished the stamp will obviously appear to have been applied after the gun was finished. The first letter is the month and run from January to December with the letters B-L-A-C-K-P-O-W-D-E-R-X. Go here: Remington Manufacture Dates to enter your date code for production date.

Many of the military 513-Ts are in quite good condition, but the vast majority of them were depot re-finished, which is why the finish condition appears so good.
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Blue book shows $250 for 80%!
I'd think that the Blue Book is out of touch with this one. The bolt alone would probably bring $125 and the Redfield rear about 100-150 at auction.
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I bought one of these about 17 years ago, no U.S. military markings on it. But in spite of a few pits in the barrel she does shoot. Been awhile since her last outing though. Mine came with a redfield globe front sight and redfield rear target sight. Frank
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I think mine is still wearing its original blue finish. Wouldn't an arsenal refinished gun be parkerized?
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