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Luger for Variety - DWM 1900 American Eagle 7.65mm
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I used to own this 1906 german commercial. It had the idea shoulder stock holster. It also was in 7.65 mm. Sold it to get a divorice lawyer 27 years ago.
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Wasn't a downpayment on a fee, I hope!
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It was just the opening shot. Many more went.
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Outstanding Luger. Thanks for the detailed pictures!
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It was just the opening shot. Many more went.
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Many guns. Many girl friends. One more final wife I hope. You know, I always get a charge when I see the usual comment on life some guys make when discussing their past life. "I would do it all over again". I wouldnt. I have made mistakes almost every day of my life. Were I to have a chance to redo them changes would be made. But thinking about it, in my case I might well have made even worse mistakes by the change.
It`s what it is. I have often made the claim I have lost, threw away, given, have had stolen from me, more money than I ever made. That doesnt sound mathmaticaly possible, but in my case I belive it!
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All Lugers are cool but that one just about takes the cake!
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Cptcurl, as always fantastic photos. As a very young patrol officer I assisted in arresting a burglary suspect who had stolen a number of collector grade weapons, one of which was an American Eagle luger, I believe in .45 caliber. I had no idea of what a piece of firearm history I was holding, but somehow I sensed it was something special even then.
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Many will disagree, but to my mind the 1900 American Eagle holds more mystique than any other Luger ever made. They are just plain cool.
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And were a personal favorite of Phillip Marlowe. (If a fictional character endorses a firearm, you know it's got to be golden. )
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And were a personal favorite of Phillip Marlowe. (If a fictional character endorses a firearm, you know it's got to be golden. )
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Did Marlowe carry a Luger? On TV, he had a tray under his car's dash that slid out to reveal a Colt Detective Special and a Police Positive Special. I think this car was in an earlier movie, too.
Phillip Carey played Marlowe on TV. I've not read the books.
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WOW! That has got to be the purtiest Luger I've seen! Nice catch, cap! Old bear, you held a .45 American Luger???? I would be honored just to shake that hand, sir!
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Did Marlowe carry a Luger? On TV, he had a tray under his car's dash that slid out to reveal a Colt Detective Special and a Police Positive Special.
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In several of Raymond Chandler's early short stories, some of which I've lately been rereading, his detective hero favors a Luger, at least once specifically described as .30 caliber. It's been a looong time since I read the novels and don't recall what he carried in them. In at least one of the short stories ("Red Wind") as originally published the hero wasn't named Phillip Marlowe, but was changed in subsequent publications.
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That's a gorgeous Luger. I can't believe how many parts were strawed. And the double layer recoil spring is clearly shown. Great gun, great pictures. Thanks.
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Back in the early '70s, Abercrombie & Fitch... yes, Abercrombie & Fitch had one in their downtown Chicago store... yes, downtown Chicago!
It's the most beautiful handgun I've ever seen.
I've wanted one ever since.
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That is a screamer!
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Back in the early '70s, Abercrombie & Fitch... yes, Abercrombie & Fitch had one in their downtown Chicago store... yes, downtown Chicago!
It's the most beautiful handgun I've ever seen.
I've wanted one ever since.
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Hey! I went to that store while at a college Journalism convention. It was a delight, and i handled some fine guns and Zeiss binoculars and saw Randall knives.
The staff were congenial once they saw that I was an enthusiast, and they were the friendliest people we met in Chicago. (Overall, it was a rude city by Texas standards, and many of our students were shocked by that.)
The Dallas A&F also had some nice guns, and I wrote a story for, "Guns" about a selection of Churchill, Atkin, Grant, and Lang guns auctioned there. Also did a story for, "Guns" on the widest selection of Merkel guns to be shown in the USA since WW II, a few years before Germany re-united. (The guns were shown at A&F.)
It was a truly sad day when the A&F name was sold to The Limited, which turned it into a ladies clothing store. Disgraceful!
The old, REAL A&F was a delight for sportsmen and famous explorers. Their catalogs were terrific, too.
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Hey! I went to that store while at a college Journalism convention. It was a delight, and i handled some fine guns and Zeiss binoculars and saw Randall knives.
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I have a vague recollection of a display case full of Randall belt knives, which I was very impressed by, having recently read an article about them in Guns&Ammo(?).
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Not so much now, I think. Their ads look like they were shot by Richard Mapplethorpe.
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Were these the ones made to compete against the 1911 for the new service firearm of the time? I have heard of them, but never saw an actual one.
Congrats on owning such a fine specimen!
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Ones almost identical to this were issued for test trials to the U.S. Army, however this one was made for the civilian market, complete with the U.S. coat of arms over the chamber. The original test trial Lugers are very scarce and extremely expensive when they come up for sale.
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Very, very cool. Similar to the Swiss military pistols.
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Were these the ones made to compete against the 1911 for the new service firearm of the time? I have heard of them, but never saw an actual one.
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This pistol is identical to the U.S. Army test pistols. The U.S. Govt bought 1000 of these for the tests. The test pistols also had the U.S. Eagle on them. DWM continued with the Eagle for the commercial production, of which this is one. They also put the crests of other nations on them for promotional purposes.
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Hi:
The only "American Luger" that I ever saw and handled was in the era of1980-1981. Working part time in a Florida Gun Shop, two older gentlemen came in to inquire about having a handgun "Re-finished". The handgun taken out of a leather handgun case was a "American Luger"!
After explaining why it was not a great idea to have this pistol "Re-finished" the gentleman owner of the Luger told me that years ago as a young man he was "Exploring" in the woods near "Little Bohemia" Wisconsin. On an old fence post he found this pistol. Inquiries at the local post office bulletin board brought forth no one claiming ownership of the pistol. The locals surmised that one of the Dillinger Gang members put the pistol on the fence post while climbing the fence to escape the FBI and being in a hurry forgot the pistol.
The Luger had only a slight discolor on the muzzle and otherwise was in excellent condition. The story sounded plausible and the "Discovery" most likely happened shortly after the "Little Bohemia Incident".
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Dang! I wish I could have found mine on a fence post. Maybe I should go looking.
Great story for sure.
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That's a gorgeous Luger. I can't believe how many parts were strawed. And the double layer recoil spring is clearly shown. Great gun, great pictures. Thanks.
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Pretty much what I was going to say.
That Luger is just stunning! It's just amazing, for a 112 year old weapon!
I don't think I've EVER seen such an absolutely STUNNING example of this iconic semiauto pistol.
My 1936 Luger looks like it came out of a trash can, by comparison. But, it went through WWII.
Envy: I haz it bad!
ETA: I'm saving the pictures, so I can drool over them again and again!
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Not quite. They competed against the Colt M1900 .38acp, various revolvers and various other odd semi-auto pistols.
When the 1900s were made, there was NO American .45 semi-auto. That didn't happen until 1905 and the Colt M1905, just an enlarged Colt .38acp.
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Mine is in the 13,000 serial range and the breechblock had a different number. I bought it for 1,100 in 1989. I did fire it once, it was so tight, it felt like a bullet went off from in my arm.
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And who disagree's? Laughing out loud.
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Great work, great gun, as usual, Curl. Your computer should have applause sound effects when we hit the Like button.
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Sorry no pics but-I HAD one of those so-called: "Black Widow" (Portugese Contract) Lugers at one time. It was a 1941 BYF--and as mint as mint can be. I no longer have it due to the 2nd case of the "Severe Stupids" I had.
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I'm sure when this was made....
.....people probably thought it looked 'futuristic'. Here it is 2013 and it STILL looks futuristic. And is one cool mamma-jamma.
Great pics by the way.
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That sure is a nice Luger. I have always like them and I have a 1921 DWM I bought from a tenant.
Regarding the lugers tested by the Army when the 1911 was adapted, I think the later test involved three Lugers (1907 trials) especially made in .45 cal. As I heard it they had fatter grips. Supposedly one was worn out and two still exist. These were the only .45 cal Lugers ever made in Germany. The army ordered 200 more, but for whatever reason Georg Luger returned the order.
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Thanks for reviving this year+ old thread. And thanks again for the nice comments.
The curse of a gun safe is that all the toys remain hidden deep inside. It has been quite some time since I last had this Luger in my hands, and I actually enjoyed looking at the photos myself. I really need to pull out my collection of Lugers and fondle them a bit. By reviving this thread you have reminded me of what I am missing!
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This was the last of them too, there are no 20,000 serial ranges for this, I had a 13,000 or so, and boy I wish I had it now, I only have an image of it on Flickr....Enjoy? yes sure, makes me wish I kept mine more.
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This is my Baby here, the odd story about this gun is I owned it in 1989 the same time I owned my 1900, and I pawned it. I lost it but kept the box. So i always remembered the serial number. I sold the box in 2004. Last year I saw the exact gun (My gun) on Florida gun traders, still unfired, well I got it back. I did fire it too finally.
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Is your 1921 serial 6098? I owned one serial 6098.
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That's assuming you are referring to my Colt TSMG (the only 1921 I have).
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Well I have to show you the 1900 I had. One of those things like "I owned one at one time" LOL. It is pictured next to the Mauser Parabellum I just got back after 23 years and my 1921 DWM Police. The serial was in the 13,000 range and I paid 1,100 for it in 1989. Now they are like what 5 grand in this condition?
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That is one spectacular 1900 American Eagle Luger!
Every gun nerd (I hate the term gun nut) needs to own a Luger at some point in their journey of firearm study. Mine is a DWM WWI military issue with a 1916 chamber date. It came with a nice 1939 dated hard shell holster and a couple of fxo stamped WWII vintage magazines. It has all matching serial numbers (except those mags) and is in decent shape but nothing like the OP's.
Here is mine
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all of the dished toggle lugers are the best looking.
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A bump to the top for beauty.
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I would consider this an EXTREMELY rare set. This is a consecutively numbered set of TWO U.S. test trial Lugers, numbers 727 and 728. They belong to a friend who is an avid collector. Each was bought in a different time frame, and he only noticed when he brought the second one home that they were in fact consecutive twins. I can only imagine the worth of the two of them together.
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