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Old 01-16-2013, 05:38 PM
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I recently acquired a bunch of different reloading items, and in the batch was a box from Connecticut Cartridge Corporation labeled 33WCF. I'm not an ammo collector, and I don't know anything about this caliber. Am hoping someone on here might shed some light on this oddity for a caliber and if it might have any collector value.

Uploaded a couple pics. The bottom 12 rounds are CCC headstamp, the 4 in the top left are REM UMC, and the top right one is WRA. Noticed that a few of the CCC headstamp cases had splits at the mouth. Definitely "Collector Only."



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Old 01-16-2013, 07:28 PM
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The .33 Winchester was an early 20th century offering that was sort of similar to the .35 Remington in that it usually was loaded with a 200gr bullet but had about 10% higher velocity than the Remington round. The .33 pretty much disappeared before WWII.

Collectible? Who knows? But there's probably several dozen guys out there who own rifles chambered for the .33 and who are always looking for brass.
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These are on line for $14.00 to $19.00 each. Check out AMMO 1 for more information. If you would like to donate one to my collection I would gladly accept it.

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Got replaced in the W-W line by the .348 Winchester in about 1933-35, whenever their M-71 came out.
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Those are reloads and not worth much (especially with cracked necks). Later production Winchester Model 1886's were chambered for that smokeless powder cartridge and are typically less desirable than guns chambered for larger calibers (45-70, 45-90, 50-110).
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The 33 Winchester M1886 was the first one to come out with stainless or nickel steel barrels. They aren't real desirable for whatever reason, but they are great guns. Like most 1886s, they're smooth as silk. Prices have been going up over the years. If you find someone who has the rifle, they'll probably drool over anything they can get. When I owned mine, finding ammo was painful.
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The biggest whitetail in Maine was shot with a 33 WCF, mid 60's I believe, somewhere near the forks, and if my memory is correct it weighed 354lbs dressed out about a week after it was shot, great find neighbor
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Thanks everyone for the information. Had never heard of this caliber until I ended up with this box. Not really a cartridge collector, so hopefully I can find someone that would be interested in buying for theirs.
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If they had called it the .338 WCF it may have sold better.
It is just that,,a .338 caliber and based on the 45-70 case/head.

Absolutely nothing wrong with the caliber, but as pointed out,,Win 86's in 33WCF bring the lowest prices.
We used to have many of them re-bored to 45-70 for customers.

A very, very few Win Model 71's were chambered either for the 33WCF or the 45-70 when it was first intro'd. I don't recall which of the two it was now.
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But there's probably several dozen guys out there who own rifles chambered for the .33 and who are always looking for brass.
There must be quite a bit of interest - Midway sells both new brass and case forming dies to make brass from 45-70 cases. Everything is on back-order.
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