I've had an itch for a while for a Single Action Army type gun, but a Colt is pretty much out of the picture for me for the time being.

A local shop has an Uberti Cattleman in stock for a fair price. It's in 45 Colt and has a 5 3/4" blue barrel with a color case hardened frame.

Reading around the internet, the Uberti models seems to get generally positive reviews. Does anyone here have any thoughts on the Uberti single actions?

Had two Artillery Models by Cimarron (Made by Uberti) Replaced springs with Wolf Springs ($15-20 per). No issues for several years. Also a Uberti 73 Winchester clone. All in 45 caliber.

No issues. Got flush, so I replaced with them with Colt SAA's.

I had the same gun for a couple years. It shot well, and gave me no problems. Not as nice as a Colt or USFA, but nowhere near the price either. If you shoot a lot, you might want to consider a Ruger S/A. More durable and stronger in the long haul. The small flat springs in the original Colt design tend to be less durable in extended use.

Larry

I have a "Regulator" which is a Uberti firearm (I'm pretty sure).

Bought it used included a .45LC cylinder and a .45ACP cylinder.

I LIKE it!



Definitely not as nice as the Ruger New Vaquero I used to have, but didn't cost as much either. The Ruger is a good recommendation!

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I use a Cimmaron (Uberti) 45Colt as my everyday ranch gun. It sees a lot of use, and has been totally trouble-free for three years now. That big, slow bullet folds a hog up like a dishrag.

I have two Colt SAA`s and I like them, BUT I sure wouldn`t turn down a Ruger New Vaquero.

I'm very pleased with mine. Everything I killed with it is just as dead as if it'd been shot by a Colt.

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I have 1 Cattle man in 357, a Cimmaron in 45 Colt, a 73 clone in 44 Special, and 2 Number 3's Russians in 44 Russian. All are fine guns and hold up to SASS use very well. A SASS shooter shoots more in a year than most real cowboys or Lawmen shot in a lifetime (I wasn't real serious and did 1500-2000 for each pistol and same for the rifle per year). Ivan

Have had 3 of their Colt-style percussions ('61 Navy, Walker, 3rd Model Dragoon). Have also had other percussions to include a nice original 1860 and a rough Navy. Add in a 1st gen Colt SAA. The wife has a Cattleman and a USFA.

I think Ubertis are made to look pretty, which they do, and not for long term durability. Naturally, anything can break. Or not.

Having owned "a few" Rugers over the years (and busted a few parts in those as well) I prefer them. They don't break much and repairs are straightforward.

My NM stainless Vaquero isn't as nice as the wife's nickel USFA, but from a couple feet away it looks identical. Loaded with BP loads it's nostalgic enough for my purposes.

I can fix guns fairly well, but I'd rather just shoot them.

JMHO.

After years of trying with Ruger SAs I finally just gave up on 'em. Nothing wrong with Rugers, they just don't work for me.
Not long ago I got the SA bug again and decided to give Colt clones a try. I bought an Uberti Cattleman Hombre. Very plain gun with a matte finish. Probably the cheapest model Uberti makes. So far I've been very pleased with it. May not be much to look at, buts its very well made and accurate.

i prefer the new vaquero but i know guys that shoot as much as i do that use ubertis they seem to be okay with them. i have a couple uberti rifles and i swear by them.

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Last summer I bought this Cimarron Uberti Model P, 5-1/2 barrel, 45 Colt, "black powder" type frame and old style (round) ejector. I am very happy with it. I did not care for the high gloss finish on the grips as they came from the factory, so I re-finished them in tung oil. I did smooth the action, but left all springs at full tension.

I had a Ruger Super Blackhawk some years ago. There is no comparing the two. Two different guns for two different purposes. The Ruger has a passing resemblance to an early Colt, but that is all.

The Cimarron Uberti is more like the original guns than the current guns that Colt is putting out.

I plan to get another gun similar to this one, but in 44-40 and with the 4-3/4" barrel.

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I've owned several Ubertis and they all have good shooters. In the past, there have been complaints of soft internal parts, but I haven't had any problems with mine.

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My wife & I have 3 Uberti rifles between us. They always work well, look good and have been trouble free at many SASS matches over a number of years. I had Uberti SAA's years ago but upgraded to Colts (I was single then. Money was for fun.) My wife had some Uberti SAA's for a while but they were "cartridge conversions" and frankly, not much to write home about. The newer model Pietta's that she has now are very impressive. Haven't had too much use yet but so far so good.

Decent pistols. Some periods of lesser quality than others,,but Colt has shipped out some doggy S/A too in the past.

If I remember right, the early USFA S/A's were built on Uberti frames and parts that were extensively re-worked. I think that was even before Uberti was bought up by Beretta which continues to own them now.
It was much cheaper to import from Europe then too of course.

With the percussion and cartridge revolver imports,,I've always had a rule of inspecting the individual piece before buying it.
With all the different importer names and distributors,it's tought to distinguish who actually made some of them, especially in years past.
But even w/a Uberti name on them, I feel better if I can look it over before buying it. Just one of the hazzards of the Euro import C&B and Cartridge revolver game it seems.
Many can stand a going over of the springs inside or straight across replacement of just the bolt/trigger spring if nothing else.

I think they are pretty nice looking guns.Almost bought one until the guy at the LGS stuck a Colt Officer's Model in front of me.After that it was a flood of S&W's that I felt obligated to find a home for.

I have a Cimarron model P. By far my favorite gun to shoot (remember to use "cowboy" loads, not full power 45 colt). Every once in a long while, I'll get the urge and CCW it under a coat in cold weather. I have a stand alone holster, and a western rig that I'll throw on out in the yard.

If you can, get it from Cimarron. They remove the Italian trademarks, roll mark it like an original, do some other finishing touches, and are an American company.

Edit: Uberti's and any other replica gun are NOT SAFE to carry with 6 rounds. Loading is as follows- hammer to half cock, load one, skip one, load four, hammer back to full cock, then lower all the way. It'll be on the empty chamber.

I had an 1860 Colt .44 repro by Uberti. Pretty nice, but an original Colt in nice shape will show a brighter finish. But Ruger's blue jobs are also not high polish.

The examples that I saw in the Beretta Gallery looked good.

It's important to get their best work. Uberti is sort of like Sear's: Good, Better, and Best items, made to various importers' specs and price levels.

A VERY well known gun writer who owns and shoots both original and modern Italian repro guns told me that he thinks the Italian rifles are, across the board, better made than the revolvers. He said it's usually best to be sure that you're buying the best grade wheelguns.

Thanks for those photos! They are what Internet pics should be, and too sedom are.

The cylinder pin screw looks large in the left view of the gun.
Is it a replacement? And are those pretty stocks original?

Texas Star, the guns come from the factory with two cylinder pin screws. One is like the original (with a slot for screw driver), and the other is supposed to be used without any tool. That is the one shown in the photos. It has a large head with deep grooves that allow your thumb and fingers to install or remove it. Not authentic, but a nice "aftermarket" touch that no one thought of back then.

The wood stocks are original to the gun, other than being re-finished with tung oil.

Interesting comment on my photos; I deliberately use what I term "documentary" photos. That is, I photograph straight side shots. I don't EVER use prop rods of any kind. Especially, I don't "casually" throw down a bunch of ammo, holsters, coins, trolley tokens, subway tickets, condoms, eyeglasses, cough drops, pens and pencils, pocket lint, etc. to make an "artsy" picture. The only tip I have to offer is that I almost always photograph outdoors in the shadow on the north side of buildings, or on overcast days, since I don't have a light box. I also like to show both sides of guns. Never photograph guns in direct sunlight.

My camera in nothing special; just a cheap Kodak digital from around 2004.

Edit to add: I have attached two poor quality snap shots of the cylinder pin screw.

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So did I.
I bought a .45 cal. no-frills Cattleman Hombre model (steel, low luster finish w/ brass grip frame).
1873 Single-Action Cattleman Revolvers | Uberti
No probs but I did swap some springs and polished the brass a little, which made a definite difference in the action plus helped the looks a little.
I've since added a Ruger Talo edition which is nice.
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I also got a nice Mernickle holster to tote them around in.
Mernickle Custom Holsters - Performance Series
Maybe some day I can add a Colt and USFA.

In general Uberti seems to make good quality and very pretty stuff. I really wanted a Colt "peacemaker" and didn't want to settle for a repo. I couldn't afford a Colt and ended up with a Ruger NM Vaquero. The Vaquero's silky action has satisfied my single action fix for now.

My three .44-40 4 3/4" Uberti Cattleman revolvers have been used in over a hundred CAS matches including several podium finishes at state and regional meets in the BP classes. I've never had a failure with BP or smokeless. If I had to depend on any of my handguns for a long term self defense situation it would be the Cattlemen. They are even more dependable than my Smiths. They're not firearms as much as extensions of my arms.

Just wanted to follow up and report that I bought the gun.

I had a chance to take it to the range today and ran about 60 round through it-10 of them factory Federal and the rest my own reloads.

My reloads were 6.8gr IMR PB under a 250gr Missouri Bullets "Cowboy" bullet. I've not shot SAA-type guns that much, and it took me a few cylinders to get use to how I needed to hold the gun and let it recoil(or "let it roll" as I was advised). Once I got the hang of that, I was able to get a pretty decent group with it.

Thanks also to Bill Graf, bgrafsr, who was generous enough to send me 50 pieces of brass to get me started with reloading

How about posting a couple of pictures?

Could you provide a link to Texas Star? Googled it and found nothing.

Here is mine Cimarron (Uberti) Cattleman in .45 colt. The revolver is 12 years old. Function is great. Preformance is even great. Did shoot 96 out of 100 with it on 25 meter distance. Last thuesday shot 90 out of 100.
I really love that revolver. I do own several Colt SAA revolvers to. But this is my workhorse.

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The point of aim of almost all Uberti revolvers is a little down right of the center. If you know that it is no problem at al to get a good score. I do reload 5.1 grain Vectan BA 10 after a 230 grain .454 sized bullet. This gives a good result for me.

I do place always my little finger under the grip. I always place the cocked hammer spurr in the middel of my hand. So I do have a good grip and control of the revolver. I do love the 5 1/2 inch barrel. It has a good balance.

Uberti actually makes the parts for Colt. They are identical in every way. If you don't need something that reads, "COLT" on the barrel then Uberti is a fine alternative.

I picked up a Cimmaron Model P in .45 Colt with a 4-3/4ths" barrel. Compared to my older Vaquero, the Model P just feels right. It's fun to shoot.

Texas Star is a member here who wrote post #19. I was replying to him.

Sorry for bringing this one up from the dead...but it appeared to be the best place to post this photo, but first an explanation.

I bought a used Cimmaron Plinkerton in .22 LR. I was always curious about SAA, and wanted to try one. I couldn't resist when I found this very cheap gun to play around with at the range. I was so impressed I bought an Uberti in .45 Colt soon after.

.22LR on top, .45 Colt on the bottom.

Years ago I bought a Cimmaron (Uberti) revolver, using the old model black powder-style frame with charcoal bluing. The "charcoal bluing" is very thin and doesn't last long. If I had to do it over again, I would get the conventional bluing and the latter type frame. The only good thing I can say about the charcoal bluing is that it ages very well.

Yes...the 'charcoal blue' finish is absolutely beautiful when new..but wears quickly. The standard blue is fairly durable.

I now own two Uberti SAA clones in .45 Colt. Both are the old style frames. The second one I got is a early 2000's 4 3/4"(the charcoal blue gun)...has seen a lot of use and is a really fine gun. My newest is about a month old and is a 'Cimarron' 7th Cav 7.5" and it is a superb shooter!!

Something to add..my very first Uberti was a cheaper 'American Arms' Regulator with brass grip-frame. It was a .44-40/.44 Special 7.5" barreled SAA clone. Dated to probably the late 1980's(I got it used). It too was a superb and accurate shooter. I did have issues with the cylinder hand breaking...but eventually got a tough one. The newer Uberti's have a different hand system that differs from the original Colt type hand(which was what was in the American Arms Uberti). No issues with the new type hand.

No problems with them here.

Cimarron Uberti .45 Colt. Bought this one with the intention of going without ejection rod & housing and cutting/crowning barrel to 2.5" Removed the ejection parts but have yet to convince myseld to shorten the barrel.




Uberti .45 Colt with a Colt barrel. That way when I got it.





Cimarron Uberti Open Top .38 special & .38 Colt.

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The hand design did not change significantly, but Uberti changed the hand spring from a flat type (as used originally) to a coil. This fix has eliminated the problem of broken hand springs.

In follow up to my post #12, about a year and a half ago I did indeed end up getting another Cimarron Uberti. It is in 44-40 and with the 4-3/4" barrel. I added the fake stag grips. I have gotten a lot of enjoyment from it during that time.

About a week ago, I was shooting it in my basement when the left rear bolt arm (which also functions as its own spring) snapped. I ordered a new bolt from Cimarron and installed it. According to "The Colt Single Action Revolvers" shop manual by Jerry Kuhnhausen, this was going to be an almost monumental project, and he went on to dismiss and discourage working on anything other than a gen-u-whine Colt. He was completely wrong, as the new part was perfectly made, and the cylinder locks up with virtually no rotational play. I did polish some of the bolt surfaces, but this was only to ensure a smooth action.

In my picture of the broken bolt I used a red arrow to indicate an improper fitting of the original bolt head at the factory. The sides of the bolt head are supposed to be flat and parallel with the bolt body. Beveling the side of the bolt head is an improper, but quick and sloppy method to get the gun operational. I was disappointed to discover this. A poor fit like this can cause damage to the locking slots in the cylinder. The bolt would have fit into the slots properly even without the bevel, so I imagine this was an individual assembler's routine shortcut to increase production quantity.

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I truly enjoy my Uberti and have had no problems at all with it. Saves me from worrying about damaging the Colts and that makes the range time much more fun!
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Uberti Is plenty good enough for fun, if you want to get serious it Ruger for me. Both are more than worth what you pay for them in my opinion.

The Uberti is a decent copy of a Colt and although UBERTI DOES NOT MAKE PARTS FOR COLT, many parts are interchangeable.
The ruger is a completely modern gun built to operate like a Colt. Nothing on them fits on any Colt I've owned.

I haven't shot them a lot, but I really do enjoy them. Much easier to shoot than I expected them to be with the tiny rear sight. Recoil is quite mild. My wife has forbidden me to even think about selling for trading them.

Cimarron 1871/72 Open Top Colt replica's.

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I've just recently discovered the fun to be had with Uberti replicas and the 44WCF and 45 Colt cartridges.
I bought a Navy Arms Uberti 44WCF Schofield from a friends estate as something to remember him by, and as usual being the enabler that he was, that led to a 1873 Sporting rifle in 44WCF and more. I then had to have a SAA and got a brass grip frame Uberti Cattleman in 45 Colt. That revolver though shot about a foot to the left from 25 yards and the grip did not point naturally for me so I traded it for a Bisley. With the Bisley's trigger pull reduced from 5lbs to 2lbs 5oz with a spring change I can clang the 8" steel with relative ease from 50 yards. To compliment the 5.5" Bisley I added a 3.5" Cimarron Thunderer. The Thunderer came from the factory with a 2lb trigger pull and excellent fit and finish. Sights are perfect for windage but the front sight will need a bit of trimming as it shoots about 18 inches low from 25 yards.




When I traded the Cattleman for the Bisley I also traded 4 other guns for a 1873 short rifle in 45 Colt.




I also came across a deal on a nickel plated 7" Uberti Schofield in 45 Colt that I couldn't pass up. Trigger pull is a heavy 5lb 15oz and not much can be done about that from what I hear. 1892 replica from Chiappa in 45 Colt was also needed to go with the Schofield.


Other than that Cattleman shooting left for me I am very pleased with the quality of the Uberti replicas. As far as long term durability, I don't see why they shouldn't last for generations.

My Cimarron Uberti 7.5" Bisley 44WCF will arrive this week......What can I say, I'm hooked....and I like the weird grip shapes.

KO

Have wondered if anyone has modified and installed adjustable sights on one?

I know I have seen variants coming from the factory with adjustable sights.

I have several and use them often. Never had a single issue.

I love my Uberti. Quite pleased with it.





1873 S.A. Frontier Series .45LC

I posted about mine in the original thread. It's still going strong. Had to replace a broken bolt spring last year, but that's the only hiccup it's ever had. Just ordered my second one today, the 7th cav replica. Can't wait to pick it up.

Uberti Flat Top Target. I will gladly engage in a target-shooting contest with any Colt out there.

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