Picked up this Savage 24V yesterday. .222 over 20 gauge. Gonna be a winter project to refinish the stock. the metal is actually in good shape. Always wanted one of these, don't really know why.

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Wonderful rifle! Versatile. You will find lots of uses for this combination gun. I have a church member who has one of 24V. He takes it with him everywhere he goes on the four-wheeler, pick-up truck, etc. Extremely useful. He uses it for varmints and other such things that need shooting. His rifle barrel is a .223 Remington w/ the 20 ga. shotgun barrel.

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I had the camper model with short barrels and 22lr/20 gauge. Stupidly sold it when I needed the money and understand they're collectable now.
Enjoy it as they're fun even if the practical use for one is limited. Mine did break down in to a nice little case though and was handy to tuck away in the trunk.

Very nice gun, and its both. I've one of those also in the 30/30 over 20 ga variation.

My gun show 22lr./410. You don't want know what I paid. It's a mdl 24

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The Savage 24 is little known, but it's one of the most versatile guns one can own. I just put together an article on the breed, slated for future publication in the Blue Press.

Mine started out as a .222 Remington over 20 gauge, but a thoughtful previous owner had the rifle barrel rechambered to the more available .223 Remington. I put an old 1x K1 Weaver scope on it; good for precision shooting, but it will not materially interfere with proper shotgun useage. It's the only 20 gauge I own, but I do find it way more comfortable to shoot than 12 gauge.

This is a Model 24V, series C. If you had only one gun to "grab and go" in a survival situation, you could do a lot worse than this one.

These are no longer made, but they turn up occasionally on the used gun market. Worth looking for, and still relatively inexpensive when found.

John

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John- let us know when the article is published. I wanted one in a ceterfire rifle caliber. The .222s seem to be the most available. I guess they even made some in both .357 magnum and .357 maximum, but they seem fairly rare and $$$.

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When I lived in AZ and TX, I used to hunt turkeys with a 24D,
.22Mag over 20 gauge. It was a fine little gun after some trigger work.

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They've extended our turkey season here and I'd love to find one in at least .243 over 12or20ga.
It would be ideal to carry while deer hunting and you run across a turkey.
That very thing happened 2 weeks ago, right before they came back in season.
I would try
To top it with a red dot and hope the 2 barrels would register somewhere close enough to work.
Nice score!

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Since this thread I've been looking and did find a 24 in 30-30 Ackley over 20ga.
I knew nothing about the Ackley Improved but found out that its about 250fps faster than the 30-30win.
It also still shoots the 30-30 win., which is a plus.
Probably want too much since it comes with a die set and its been completely ceracoated in camo.
Right caliber though.
DARN YOU Glenncal1!!

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Good combo as far as caliber. It is a rechamber as an Ackley improved was never done in this gun as far as I know.I'm not a fan of the camo thing but to each his own.

Back to the Ackley thing.Excellent chambering, you can just shoot the parent cartridge the 30/30, but after shooting it the case will be the 30/30 AI with no going back. Dies are easy to get, but the load data you will not find in any manuals, not sure why but its just how it is. I used to have a Contender in 30/30AI and if you buy this PM me and I can send you some tested data that I have for it, but just basically hot 30/30 loads.

To me the 30/30 (or AI) over 20 ga is one of the better set ups in this gun.. took me a while to find mine.

A close friend gave me one he inherited from his father. It sat unused on a wall rack in a den for about thirty years. The wood could use a refinishing and the metal had some light surface rust. I removed the rust and much of the bluing but got the metal surface clean and stablized. There is no pitting. The bores were filthy and had spider webs and other gunk in them but with a good cleaning, they turned out to be nice and shiny...Its a .22RF/20ga. The trigger is heavy but otherwise not bad. I would have preferred a centerfire that I could reload since .22's have become a scarce and expensive commodity. Still, being a gift and a good squirrel gun, it't a prized possession. I will have the barrels coated perhaps, refinish the stock and put sling studs on it...I saw it many times over the years when I went by my friend's parents' place with him and always thought it a shame that it just sat there collecting dust. Now, its in a home where it will be appreciated.

I agree, would prefer the wood stocks but with turkeys, everything helps. They did a good job on it also.
Since it reforms the 30/30 cases when fired, are they then good to go with reloading to the AI?
Also, thanks for the offer, I will, if I do.
Sorry about the hijack Glenn.
And yes, it was stated as a re-chamber

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Yes, but just like any other cartridge you will have to load them accordingly, get a set of 30/30AI dies and its just like any thing else you reload.

Hey its a gun board, lets talk guns. These 24's are an interesting niche gun and cool IMHO.

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Thanks and I agree that they are unique.
Apparently the sellers agree also. The prices reflect it.

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That particular gun comes with a die set.

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I had a .22Lr/.410 that lived in the scabbard in my Jeep's seat cover. Handy and versatile.

Also had the 2400 in 12ga/.308. It was made by Valmet for Savage. Both disappeared in some time of need or another.

A friend just recovered (long story) a .22Mag/20ga that has seen a fair degree of neglect and is an external horror show while still sound mechanically. The next time he tries to sell it to me I may go ahead and then try the Ceracoat treatment.

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What the heck you waiting for then?? DO IT!

(I love spending other peoples money! )

It's an auction 10days out yet. Sitting at $35 right now. Also sporting a Luepold VXII 2.5x20 on it.
Patience, grasshopper.

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Well good luck to you, hope you get it! It would be a steal at 10 times that price!

I have a 24V 222/20
And a 22/410.

Meat guns. I have shot many game including one running deer @ 125 yards.

If you shoot a squirrel with the cf, aim for the head. I shoot lead or reduced 222 loads for small game.

The 24V will be the last gun I own.


Pictures later. Not my prettiest gun, but most useful.

I had and sold a 24 in 22 Mag/20 gauge. Th best it would shoot a
@ 100 yards was 4" the worst group was 12"! I have a Camper 22 LR/20 Gauge, It has been my constant companion for 30 some years and has ridden in my truck for 26. I thought it was expensive at $175 when I bought it, but a couple weeks ago I saw a 22 LR/20 with standard 26" barrels plus a 410er insert for $575. I also have a 357 Mag/20 and a 30-30/20. I love the guns but the prices are out of sight now. Ivan

I have no pictures of the guns. Going to fix that this week.

The 222/20 I carry in the northern zone hunting. I drive for the deer hunters and shoot small game. I am the kind that cannot sit still, so the watchers like me. . . . Until I shoot a partridge while driving for them. I end up with meat every day, the deer hunters do good some years and not others.

The 22/410 was my moms, she shot skeet with it in the 50s. All 5 of us children used it growing up. I "borrowed" it a few years ago with permission. I use it in the southern zone because its illegal to carry a center fire rifle afield during deer season. I think the only time CF legal is coyote hunting which I do not.

I was out hunting squirrel a couple years ago. The previous year I had permission to hunt a spot. So I thought I was good. After about 3 or 4 squirrels, the game warden came along and said the property owner had heard a bunch of shooting. As we were talking I unloaded the 22/410 in front of him. He knew there was not a "bunch of shooting" so he just sent me on my way with a smile.

In the southern zone where I now live, they shoot deer with a shotgun. I use a model 25 in 45 colt or Ruger SRH with a scope in 44. I never have and never will attempt a shot at a deer with a slug.

As savage quality goes up and down, some are Beautiful and some are just junk.

My first 222/20 had a crack in the chamber of the rifle and popped open every time I fired it. The place I bought it sent it back. They sent the gun to him stating it was not a crack and the gun was fine. He sent it back this time with a nasty letter and they sent a new gun. This one shoots great but has a cross bolt safety which I wish was never there. I grew up on single shots. no safety needed, just cock the gun as I bring it up to my shoulder.

With the 24V, have shot many partridge before the gun even gets to my shoulder. This is why I love the gun. It fits me like no other.

The newer one sent was new mfg of the new company. They must have just changed hands. I paid $285.00 new around 1985. I hunted with it 2 weeks ago.

This was working on reduced loads. Off my back deck in sort of a rest. 25 yards.



I had the gunsmith drill and tap the for a receiver sight.

For the OP, I refinished the stock. The woodgrain was painted on. I used a cherry stain. It looks terrible, but I use the gun. I will get a pic for it.

Here is the 24V forum http://savage24forum.boards.net/board/1/savage24-forum




David

On Christmas of 1962, when I was fourteen, I received a Savage Model 24 DL in .22/.410. That little gun was a heckuva shooter and put a lot of cottontail rabbits on our table.

I kept that gun in immaculate condition and gave it to one of my sons for his fourteenth Christmas. He still has it and it still shoots like a dream. The only real noticeable marks on it are the drool stains when he takes it out and shows it to somebody.

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Well, I'm out on the one I was looking at. Too rich for me.
It hit $600 and still didn't reach the reserve price.
Half the fun is looking.

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I've wanted one for years, maybe .22 mag over 20 gauge. As is the case with so many things, it's clear I've waited too late.

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Maybe not, the one I was looking at was all tricked out ( too much so ) with the Ackley conversion, ceracoat, Luepold scope and even a set of dies.
I want a simple 30-30/20ga. With wood stock in good condition, period.

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That's just what I have, came with a cracked stock and a plain jane replacement.. took about a year but I found a new good stock for it.


I'd like to find a camper model someday.

A friend has one in .22 W. Magnum/.410.
Finally got to shoot it two years ago.
It was fun to shoot and kind of got me wanting one.
A bit surprised at the prices asked for the old ones now.

Savage has a new version of the gun out.
Synthetic stocks and a more modern look.
Handled one and liked the way it felt but haven't
bought one as yet.

This is a great thread. I have only one Savage 24, and it's .22lr/20ga. Mine had several cracks in the stock that I fixed and then Tru-Oiled it. I'll try to post some pictures.
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I'll try to post one after the Tru Oil later.

Most of them have cracks in the stock right where you do! Mine did also..

Great guns. I've had my .22lr/.410 24J Deluxe since my Dad gave it to me over 40 years ago. It's accounted for piles of rabbits, squirrels, doves, quail, snakes, even the occasional possum and feral cat.

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Excellent combo guns. My brother in law had the newer 3" 12 gauge/ 223. I killed quite a few turkeys, squirrel, and a crow at about 250 yards. Good times. Then I went in the military and he sold it while I was overseas, man I miss that gun.

A Savage 24v was the first real new rifle I ever bought. Wanted it for deer season so 30-30 over 20ga was the way to go for me. I gave to my son for his first out deer rifle when he first started. He moved on to a Winchester so the 24v resides back in the safe.

How cool is that?! I too, always wanted one of those critters!

oberlin1

I acquired the .357 Mag over 20 gauge in the early 80's.

I would take it dove hunting and hunt turtles at the same time.

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I don't think there are two animals that are more the opposite of each other than the dove and the turtle, a true testimony to the versatility of the Savage 24.

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It's always surprising how often the Mdl 24 pops up on various forums. The definitive forum is: Savage24.com One can learn a lot there, and periodically, there are some for sale.

One of that forum's stickies have all you ever needed to know about Mdl 24s. Paladin, I trust you'll give credit where credit is due.

When discussing Mdl 24s, one must use the adverbs "apparently" and "usually"....there are lots of variations.

If you're looking for one, the 22 L.R./.410 are most common, followed by .222 Rem/20 gauge. .22 Mag are often paired with .410 bore, 20 & even 12 gauge. More rare upper barrels are those with .22 Hornet, 30-30, .357 Mag, usually paired with 20 or 12 gauge. There are even some .357 Max, but Savage apparently never made them in .243 or any of the .308 class cartridges.

.222 Rem and .223 Rem were (apparently) the only non-rimmed chamberings produced, and both had 1-14" twists.

Later models moved the barrel selector from the right side of the receiver to a toggle on the hammer. Many posts in the above-mentioned forum say the hammer selector might be less prone to breakage.

Prior to 1952 (?), they were marked Stevens and the stocks were birch or tenite. Then they were marketed as Savage and stocked in tenite or walnut (there are some lovely original walnut stocks). Later, as Savage fortunes declined, birch stocks returned. At some point, case-colored receivers disappeared.

There is no love....that's none, nada....for the current Savage Mdl 42 in the Mdl 24 forum. I myself have picked up the 42 in my LGS, and hurriedly returned it to the clerk in horror.

I bought my first (22.LR/.410) in 1957, by mail from Stoegers, using earnings from corn detasseling and mowing lawns. My mom graciously cooked all those Illinois rabbits and squirrels, and it wasn't until years later that I learned that I shouldn't have been able to shoot all those pheasants with a puny 2 1/2" .410.

Couple of years ago, I bought a .222/20. At first I thought I should open the chamber to .223, but since the rifling is 1-14" one would be restricted to sub-50 or 55 gr. bullets anyway. As luck would have it, even with my old eyes, my .222 Rem barrel is extremely accurate, so I ended up leaving it as is. Bought some .222 brass, already had powders, primers and lots of 32-52 gr. bullets. Handloaded performance isn't that much different from the .223. I did spiff up the stock and take off those awful white-lines.

I used the heck out of my original .22 lr/.410 as a kid in Illinois, but as an adult here in the west, found myself using more specialized guns for both bird and big game hunting. My original gun mostly sits in the safe, coming out for occasional plinking.

However, I carry my 222/20 as a truck gun....because I can....in the hopes that I'll "need" it someday. Yeah, right.

I'm always surprised at the amount of attention my M24 gets when I pull it out of the safe. I don't think many people are aware of these models but are certainly impressed by the versatility & potential of these little guns.
I had actually passed on one of the .222 over 20 gauge models as I wanted it for more of a bunny buster & small varmint getter.
Mine is the .22lr over .410 - kind of a project gun at this point as the wood needs to be redone and the metal could use a bit of work. Looks like a lot of these guns wound up as truck guns, most I've seen were pretty rough.

My 22/410 has side selector. I leave it on shotgun because if I have to shoot fast.

My 222/20 has the silly crossbolt safety. Hammer selector. Leave it on shotgun, I can select which as I cock the gun bringing it to my shoulder. When the gun was new, the selector on the hammer broke. It was too hard. When I called the factory for a new selector, they asked "does the serial # start with an E. I said yes. They send me a new one free. I installed it.

My 222 chamber is really big. I can load bullets as long as I want and not touch the rifling. I too thought about opening up to 223. But since it shoots well, and most of the time I use reduced loads in the 222 barrel anyhow. I am getting Minute Of Squirrel out to 25 yards which is as far I can shoot with iron sights.


Velocity is 2470.


Pretty? Nope. Practical? Yup.

David

I have a 24F in .30-30 over 12 gauge. I can take this thing into the woods and be ready for anything that walks, crawls, flies or slithers across this continent. The versatility is amazing. The .30-30 barrel is amazingly accurate, especially with full power cast bullet handloads. Just this past weekend I was at a gun show and my favorite dealer had a new Blaser combo gun, 12 gauge over .30-06. Oh how I wanted it, but he wanted $5950 for it. The Savage will have to carry on.

Can somebody please explain why the Savage has the rifle barrel on top and all the nice European guns have the rifle barrel on the bottom? Experience tells me that Savage does not bother to regulate the lower (shotgun) barrel, as mine shoots way low at even moderate distance. But even so, shouldn't the more important rifle barrel be directly under the sights?

Dave Sinko

Well, I found one...30-30/20ga., wood stock, decent shape and ok price.
Should have it by the end of the week I hope.
I blame the OP entirely for this one!
Actually I need to edit to say not entirely...the fact that we now have heavily overlapping deer/turkey seasons was the driving factor.
Your thread was the catalyst.

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Well, the rifle barrel is under the sights. I've been reading a couple of fixes for the out of regulation guns.
One is to shim under the barrel band and the other method was to install a second rear fold down sight so there is a rear sight for each barrel.

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My dad has one in 222/20gauge and uses it to turkey hunt. They are a little awkward to handle, but their versatility makes up for that. I would like to have one in a bigger caliber combination to be able to use for big game and still have the shotgun for small game with all the overlapping seasons here in Va as Jessie pointed out.

Thanks Glenn, I already did.

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Before I knew about barrel regulating, I killed a lot of bunnies and pheasants with my .410. Later, when I tried shooting .410 slugs, I realized how low that barrel was compared to the 22 l.r. above. Since the brazed barrels can't be shimmed, on the rare occasions I should slugs, I use the bottom of the front sight as an aiming point....or if I have time, I raise the rear sight. It's pretty academic though: I'm not sure the .410 slug has much usefulness.

I did shim the 20 gauge barrel on my 222/20, using chunks of pop can. They shoot pretty close to each other now, and the shims can't be seen under the barrel clamps.

I have a Springfield over-under/superposed combination gun called an M6 Scout:

Springfield Armory M6 Scout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A very handy item that I plan to give to a good friend who needs it to shoot snakes while he walks his dogs in the Colorado mountains.

I guess they are called "drillings" when they have three barrels but just combination guns when it's 2 barrels.

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