Been thinking of getting something like this.
How do you like it?
Those of you that have or have used both, which one is better?

This may be slightly off the mark, but I have a MSAR STG556, which is the American made version of the Steyr AUG. A very well made rifle, very accurate and whatever I ask of it, I get back 110%. I would like to show it but I have yet to learn how to upload photos. I'm kinda new at this.

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Great gun, accurate, no problems, fun. Trigger is heavy but usable and there are a couple of aftermarket triggers on the market if you feel like it.

I am a very longtime AUG user, and it is currently my primary carbine. They are stellar guns if you understand how to run them. I use the Apple (AUG) vs. PC (AR platform) analogy. Unfortunately, the base of folks who can really run an AUG and understand them is fairly small.

I'm a bullpup lover and am thinking of trading my FN FS2000 for a Tavor. The Tavor seems to have built up more of an aftermarket than the FN. FOr example, there is a very nice 9mm conversion kit for the Tavor and custom 9mm suppressor if you are into NFA goodies.

The MSAR STG556 is the AUG action in furniture that allows it to take AR mags. Good plan if you already own an AR, and more mags will be cheap.

I've fired a Styer Aug several times. I own a Tavor. It's a tough call to say which one is better. It really is shooter preference. Out of the box, neither of them have outstanding triggers. The trigger is usually the deciding factor for me. I then examined the control placement and how the weapons are manipulated.



I liked the control layout and manipulation of the Tavor more than the AUG. I find magazine changes to be easier with the Tavor. The brass deflector on the Tavor is nice for when I practice shooting from my weak side. The Tavor has last round hold open. Everything feels just right with the Tavor.

Here are my observations so far:

1. It irks me a bit is how IWI advertises how easy it is to switch the rifle to left hand ejection. When they were first released, you could order a left ejecting bolt. Today, you have to send your entire rifle into IWI for them to install the left side ejecting bolt, they check head space, then send it back to you. Once you go through that process, then switching ejection sides is pretty darn easy to do.

2. The other thing that is not as easy as IWI makes it appear is the 9mm caliber conversion. They make it seem like it's a quick barrel swap, BCG swap, and you're good to go. It's not terribly difficult, but it's not easy or quick either.

3. There are aftermarket bits and pieces for the Tavor. I was tempted to swap out handguards.



Honestly, I'm not sure whether or not the key-mod handguards are worth it or not. They add more weight to the front of the rifle, and I lost the slight angle of the stock handguard. Right now I have the stock handguard in place. I'm still deciding whether or not to sell the aftermarket handguard.

4. The stock Tavor trigger is a combat trigger. It's meant to work in adverse conditions. It's heavy. Aftermarket trigger packs cost $350-ish. IMO, I removed a single return spring from the Tavor trigger and I'm happy. It now feels a bit more like a stock AR-15 combat trigger.

Mine's the 18" barreled Tavor. I originally wanted a 16" FDE, but the LGS sold the last one before I got there. I had a choice between the 18" FDE or a 16" Black. I'm embarrassed to admit that I prioritized color over barrel length. To tell you the truth, I'm actually glad circumstances pushed me into the 18" barrel.

Do not interpret any of what I just wrote as a negative on the AUG. The AUG is one heck of a nice rifle. I still may buy one sometime in 2015.

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have you seen this? kinda interesting...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYzwUsnryTo

Dude, selling a FN FS2000 to get a Tavor is a tough call. Knowing that FN no longer imports the FS2000 into the USA would make me want to hold onto it longer. People always want what they can't have, and I think the price of a FS2000 will just go up. There's a cool factor to the FN FS2000 that can't be denied. Nothing else looks like it. It looks like a futuristic plasma gun. The forward eject is very unique.

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I did not know that there will be no more of them. Interesting.

The forward eject is unique for the caliber. My only issues with the gun are:-

1) The vague trigger, pretty much non-correctable with this design.

2) Stoppages can be a bear to clear. It dislikes some .223 ammo with the gas system in the normal position. No doubt the gas system is set up for the fruitier 5.56 milspec stuff, but sometimes I forget to switch the gas system and end up with a nasty double feed jam. Bad language and tricky clearing procedures follow.

3) They did not make them with a 20" barrel.

The Tavor is a temptation for me to re-enter the .223/5.56 fray after exiting last year. For the price (~$1,600) it's a great alternative to going the SBR route. Ultimately though, I think my $ will be better spent on ammo/accessories or perhaps another 7.62x39 rifle.

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