I have a small collection of about 70 folding knives but I don't have an Italian style switch blade. I don't want to buy one of those 10.00 knives on Amazon. Does anyone know where I might find a decent quality knife for $100.00 or less? Owning,buying,selling and open carry are legal in Mo.

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Have a look here, you might see something you like:
Automatic Knives for sale - Knives - Blade HQ

Generally, fair prices and good service. Create an account and sign up for promotions, if you don't like your wallet to be too fat.

ETA, I just did a search for stiletto on the bladehq site, and I think you may be looking for one of these:
http://www.bladehq.com/item--AGA-Cam...an-Horn--24601

Certainly isn't $10, though.

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Check out BladePlay. They get a lot of good Italian autos in. You can spend as much as you like!

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Mr Muggins, here is a picture of the STYLE of knife I'm looking for. I want an Italian knife of higher quality though. What do you have?

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Blade Ops has free shipping and regular promotions. Customer service is top notch. Kyle

CRKT Lake's PAL Automatic Conversion (2.9" Satin Plain) 7233
I have one of these in regular configuration.
Didn't know there was a switcher model.
It's a kind of heavy duty, appears to be well made knife.

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Now here's the knife you have to have, which I do. One cannot carry it legally yet in Oklahoma, which makes no sense when just as fast opening knifes can.


Title 21 O.S. § 1272. Unlawful carry

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry upon or about his or her person, or in a purse or other container belonging to the person, any pistol, revolver, shotgun or rifle whether loaded or unloaded or any dagger, bowie knife, dirk knife, switchblade knife, spring-type knife, sword cane, knife having a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife, blackjack, loaded cane, billy, hand chain, metal knuckles, or any other offensive weapon, whether such weapon be concealed or unconcealed, except ...

Oklahoma House Bill 2170 in 2013 removed "spring-type knives" from the list of prohibited weapons to carry, either on one's person or in purse or bags.

legelegel, I have no intention of carrying such a knife, it is legal to possess such a knife in Missouri, it is also legal to open carry such a knife. Mine would be in a collection.

BladeOps seems to be perpetually out of their Buck 110 springer.
I'm on their email list if they get them back in..

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Switchblades became legal in Texas about 2 years ago. I've been carrying one ever since. A Boker AK-74 - they're under 50 bucks and very high quality.

I never saw an Italian stiletto worth over 300 dollars. That's just shocking! I have one with bone scales and I certainly wouldn't pay 300 for it and it's quite lovely.

I have a number of switchblades but I only EDC the Boker. You can spend a lot more money but why?

***GRJ***

[QUOTE=ISCS Yoda;138349862]Switchblades became legal in Texas about 2 years ago. I've been carrying one ever since. A Boker AK-74 - they're under 50 bucks and very high quality.

Just ordered one from Amazon for $35.67 , free shipping.

Thanks for the tip!

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Next door in Arkansas, Kansas and Texas it is legal to carry a switch blade knife. In the other surrounding states that barely touch Oklahoma, that is Colorado, Missouri and New Mexico, it is illegal to carry a switch blade knife, also.

Penalties for Unlawful Carry of a Weapon in Oklahoma

A first conviction for the unlawful carry of a weapon is a misdemeanor and punishable by a fine of between one hundred dollars ($100) and two hundred fifty dollars ($250) and up to 30 days in jail. A second or subsequent conviction under the unlawful carry law carries a penalty of a fine between two hundred fifty dollars ($250) and five hundred dollars ($500) and between 30 days and 3 months in jail.

Don't have one, though I'd like to own the Buck 110 conversion; but my Kentucky concealed carry license covers them.

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In Oklahoma a CCL does not cover otherwise illegal knives.

Legalegal:
I live in Arizona where these are legal and I have a few examples. One of my favorites is a "Magnum" made by Boker which is very similiar to the one in your video. I fished it out of a box of stuff at a garage sale and paid the magnificient sum of $1.00 for it. Apparently the owners didn't know what it was!
Jim

legelegel, that makes no sense. In the thing you quoted, it says that, along with being illegal to carry a switchblade (I noticed it said CARRY, not OWN) it is also illegal to carry a pistol.

Now, if the carry license negates that statute, and makes it legal to carry a pistol, why does it not make it legal to carry a switchblade?

I also noticed that you quoted it up to the word EXCEPT, and you stopped there.

21-1272.

>It shall be unlawful for any person to carry upon or about his or her person, or in a purse or other container belonging to the person, any pistol, revolver, shotgun or rifle whether loaded or unloaded or any dagger, bowie knife, dirk knife, switchblade knife, spring-type knife, sword cane, knife having a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife, blackjack, loaded cane, billy, hand chain, metal knuckles, or any other offensive weapon, whether such weapon be concealed or unconcealed, except this section shall not prohibit:

1. The proper use of guns and knives for hunting, fishing, educational or recreational purposes;

2. The carrying or use of weapons in a manner otherwise permitted by statute or authorized by the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, Section 1290.1 et seq. of this title; or

3. The carrying, possession and use of any weapon by a peace officer in the performance of official duties and in compliance with the rules of the employing agency. Any person convicted of violating the foregoing provision shall be guilty of a misdemeanor punishable as provided in Section 1276 of this title.<

Doesn't exception #2, the "manner otherwise permitted by statute", mean a carry license?

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I have that knife in black somewhere. I cannot seem to find it at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlDn2t_Rknk

When I get my Bokers, I'm only going to carry it in Texas and the Vatican.

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The Oklahoma Self-Defense Act authorizes the carry of certain caliber firearms. It does not authorize the carry of any knives that are illegal to carry in Oklahoma.

I'm currently reading the Oklahoma Self Defense Act. Dumb law. Glad I live in Florida. Better than "can't carry at all", but could be greatly improved.

If I wished to carry concealed (and I'd have to be as big as Lurch to do so) a .475 Wildey, that would be illegal. That 50 caliber 1911 they came out with a few years ago. Illegal. Heck, even a 50AE Desert Eagle - illegal.

>TITLE 21 § 1290. PROHIBITED AMMUNITION
Any concealed or unconcealed handgun when carried in a manner authorized by the provisions of the Oklahoma Self - Defense Act and when loaded with any ammunition which is either a restricted bullet as defined by Section 1289.19 of th is title or is larger than .45 caliber or is otherwise prohibited by law shall be deemed a prohibited weapon for purposes of the Oklahoma Self - Defense Act.<

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The classic stiletto is one which retracts inside the handle not the switchblade. So you now need one of those too

Are you with ATF?

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I don't hear this much about Oklahoma when I went to see Oklahoma.

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No I am not with the ATF Ron, rest easy.

I just like Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms

I have a nice stag handled Hubertus. Might be a little of $100 these days, but it seems to be of top quality.

If you would like a modern high quality auto made in the U.S.A. with Italian styling you might look at the Protech Godfather or Godson. A little over the high end of the budget you mentioned, but great knives with excellent customer service.

Daily carry knife - German Hubertus - 4 1/2 inch closed - 3 1/4 inch blade - Holds a razor edge for a long time. Stag is good quality. Springs if they do break are very easy to acquire and replace. Picked this one up at an auction for $25 last fall. Had another one just like it that I had carried for years and got talked out of it. Same knife same quality. KCI Gun Show in Kansas City has several vendors that have quality switchblades for sale. Once a year a gentleman from Italy shows up with several hundred switchblades that he makes and brings over. Last show I saw him at he sold all of them in about 3 hours. Good prices and great quality.

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ATF, there are many otf knives but no one makes them in the classic Italian
style anymore. The few vintage knives Ive seen on the net start at several thousand dollars. Seems like some company could make a few bucks buy reintroducing them.

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Dunno too much about switchblades. I have looked a little into two makes:
1. Frank Beltrame, because it is a family name for some of my step-kids. I have no idea how they fit into the pantheon of switchblade makers, but they look like decent quality, traditional Italian switchblades, with prices from reasonable to "above my pay grade".

2. Mikov. I learned about them from an "expert" knife sharpener who, as some of you may remember, turned up here a couple of years ago. He stayed around for maybe a month, impressed everyone (not necessarily favorably) with his superior sharpening skills and taste in knives, and vanished, perhaps with a little gorilla help out the door. The Mikov knives are kind of interesting, though, and also affordable, at least at the lower end of the scale. The seller requires you to jump through a lot of hoops, though, or I might already have bought one.

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I have done some research about legal ownership of automatic knives in my home state of Colorado aka California East. From what I have found, it is not only illegal to carry, but to even own. Seems our wise leaders think we cant be trusted to even own historic pieces. I have a friend in another state that has offered me a collection of US military automatic knives. However in order to protect everyone from antique historic knives, our leaders said I could not add these to my US military knife collection.

Switchblade knives are like AR-15s. That are still considered assault weapons and too mean looking.

Ron there are true double edged out of the front auto stilettos available

3300 Infidel® OTF Product Detail

but these are the hoops you have to jump through.

Federal Regulations
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Federal regulations (see below) restrict the sale of automatic knives to anyone other than United States Military, Federal Law Enforcement, Law Enforcement, Fire, Rescue and EMT personnel with acceptance of the "Auto Knife Opening Acknowledgment Form". There are exceptions for those that live in the state of *Oregon.

You can digitally sign and accept the Auto Opening Knife Acknowledgment ("AKOA") form with this website if you are a Military/Public Safety individual, and fall within the criteria of the Federal Regulations. Benchmade requires that you resubmit the AKO Acknowledgment every one hundred eighty (180) days, or where applicable.

*Oregon Residents* If your Shipping address is Oregon during checkout, you will be able to purchase restricted products automatically, with no further settings or permissions needed.

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FEDERAL CODES-
18 USC 1716 (G) (2) (1-4) provides this summary: Switchblade knives can be shipped to civilian and armed forces supply or procurement officers and employees of the Federal government ordering or procuring or purchasing such knives in connection with activities in the Federal government; to supply or procurement officers in the National Guard, the Air National Guard or militia of the state or territory of the District of Columbia ordering, procuring or purchasing such knives in connection with the activities of such organizations; to supply or procurement officers or employees of the municipal government of the District of Columbia or the government of any state or territory of any county, city, or other political subdivision of a state or territory ordering, procuring or purchasing such knives in connection with the activities of such government.
15 USC 1244 provides in summary: Knives can be shipped by common carrier, that sale, transportation or distribution, possession or introduction into interstate commerce of switchblade knives is authorized if it is pursuant to a contract with the armed forces or any member or employee thereof acting in the performance of his or her duty may possess switchblade knives any may have them shipped to him and sold to him or her. The possession and transportation upon his or her person of a switchblade knife or a blade 3 inches or less is authorized to any handicapped individual who has the use of only one arm.

Thanks Guys,
I just ordered a 9" stag horn switch blade from Blade Play.
It is made by Frank Beltrame in Italy. $94.00 free shipping.
I think this will serve my needs.

Frank B 9" Italian Stiletto Stag Horn Automatic Knife - Bayonet - Blade Play

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I resemble that remark!

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RonJ, BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL. THIS STYLE OF KNIFE IS PERHAPS THE MOST COPIED--IN A CHEAP MANNER--BY ASIAN MANUFACTURERS. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A HIGH END KNIFE. BUY FROM A RESPECTED MANUFACTURER, AND A WELL KNOWN SITE. GO ONTO ONE OF THE KNIFE FORUMS AND DO SOME RESEARCH. (I LIKE THE BENCHMADE AUTOMATICS, BECAUSE THEY DO COLLABORATIONS WITH SOME OF THE GREAT BLADE SMITHS. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DON'T MAKE AN ITALIAN STYLE STILETTO) GOOD LUCK…..

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Here's a 9 inch "Inoxid" Italian switchblade circa 1960's that I bought from a Forum member last year.
I had one just like it growing up in Detroit and traded it for a chicken dinner after a night of partying. (different life)
I've got some German Boker's, S&W's, etc, but the older Italian switchblades just have a "cool" factor to them.
Good luck on your search.

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I ordered a bunch of switchblades directly from Italy a few years ago. Even tho they're not illegal to own in my state, if Customs intercepted them, they'd confiscate them. The company's policy was, if your order got snatched they'd try a second time. If that got snatched, well...sometimes the bear gets you!

All my orders arrived in fine shape and I ordered some BIG ONES, some with stag and other great looking scales. The switchblade laws became popular after the movie, REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE back in the 50s. It was absurd, of course, because actual gangs didn't use switchblade knives because they were far too flimsy; instead, they used kitchen knives because they were big, tough, cheap, durable and were difficult to trace. And bikers? They're far more likely to carry Cold Steel Rajah IIs -- so I wouldn't try to pull a switchblade on one! The only switchblades I saw as a kid was the occasional Italian model some kid would get ahold of and show off to his friends. One kid got stabbed by his own banana knife when he waved it at some guy he was trying to bum money off of and the guy took it away from him and planted it in his thigh.

So the switchblade laws were/are pretty stupid in that they were all political in nature. I bought mine all for show and some appear pretty intimidating. But they're really better suited as movie props than actual cutting instruments. (BTW, if you ever use a swichblade, make sure you don't hold it like those gang members in that stupid movie!)

Good choice Ron. Frank B. makes perfect classic Italian stiletto. It even has the swinging bolster to unlock the blade.
There is a lesson to be learned from this subject. Restrictive laws are easy to pass and very difficult to ever get rid of. These ridiculous laws go way back to the juvenile delinquent scare of the 1950s and here we are in 2015 with a crazy patchwork of laws restricting ownership of simple pocket knives. And just how effective were these restrictions at reducing crime? Do we ever learn?

Hello there take a lok at the pirhana line of auto knives

Piranha P1 Pocket for sale - Blade HQ

i have several very well made in U.S.A. strong, light, tough, excellent customer service . various styles and colors . hope this helps

[QUOTE=THE PILGRIM;138349913][QUOTE= A Boker AK-74 - they're under 50 bucks and very high quality.
Just ordered one from Amazon for $35.67 , free shipping.
Thanks for the tip![/QUOTE]
Have you received your "button lock knife?" When I looked at amazon ads they were not autos but " button locks" ( auto with out spring?) Unfortunately I know very little about autos- just use Cold Steel and Kershaw. An auto might be nice to have in an outer pocket when archery hunting in a tree, hopefully the harness would keep me upright, but would I need to cut myself down?? I would be curious to find out what they send you. Be Safe,

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I bought an 'Italian style' switch-blade stiletto at the local quick-stop (in central Oklahoma) just a few years back. This one a smaller version like maybe 8" or 9"(never measured it?) Didn't cost much

Legal to own but not carry around. I use it to cut gun cleaning patches

If I want something to cut with it isn't going to be a stiletto. The assisted openers may not have the old school cool of the switchblades, but they're cutters. I usually carry a Spyderco Endura, but today it's a SOG Flash II. Nice knife for the money, and the spring assist works very well. Might as well be a switchblade.

If you want to stick stuff, the stiletto's the way to go in a folder.

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I haven't seen a switchblade since I was a kid and this thread got me looking at some very cool knives and now I discover its not even legal to own one in this state

Like the OP, interest in auto knives, both vintage and modern, is mostly from collectors. I'm not a collector of anything myself, but it's easy to see the benefits we all get from them. Especially on forums like this one. They amass tons of information on their subjects of interest and are happy to share their knowledge. That's why I come to forums like this. I learn a lot. Criminalizing knife collectors over a spring in a pocket knife is beyond stupid and a violation of our natural rights. It's easy to put this kind issue out of my mind because I don't have a pressing desire to own an auto knife, but in the long run, it does effect me. The framers didn't use the word "infringe" in the Second Amendment by accident.

While these are not true Italian Stiletto type knives, they do have the cool factor and are well made actual working knifes.
Top knife is Benchmade "Mel Pardue" 3550 auto. Bottom is the Benchmade 530 Pardue Axis Lock and I think the better of the two, opens faster than the auto and is mostly legal in parts of the United States...I love our knife laws. Sorry about the lousy Photo

Good call on the Frank B Ron. I have a 13" honey horn and it's a fine representation of the style. The guys at BladePlay are great to deal with.

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I recently ( 3 days) read that Tx had made a change in their knife laws, and "switchblades/ Auto knives" were now legal in Tx? Does anyone have more info , or the law #[s] ? Thank You, Be Safe,

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TX Knife Law Preemption Takes Effect Today, Ushers in Greater Freedom for Texans addresses the Texas law issues.

RIP Ron, we miss you.

I have two Emersons with the "Wave" which is faster opening than an auto knife and better quality than most.

Switchblades are illegal to carry around here. I've got a few, but they're strictly collectors and reside in the safe. From a practical point of view, I agree with Pre 29. I've got a SOG Flash and a couple Kershaw assisted openers that function every bit as fast as my switchers. They're not as sexy, but they're much better knives.