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Indian Arms .380
I have an Indian Arms .380 and the only part that is not milled is the safety that was cast. And of course that is the part that broke. Seems to be the case with a lot of people that purchased this gun back in the mid 60's. Because it was modeled after the PPK some have said that the safetys are interchangeable. Some have said no. I can get a new PPK safety or $30+ but frankly don't want to get it to find out that it does not work and then toss it in the trash. If anyone knows where I might get the safety lever for the Indian or have a parts gun please let me know.
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02-18-2015, 04:44 PM
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I suggest you contact the good folks at Cylinder & Slide shop.
If anyone can answer that question they should be able too.
www.cylinder-slide.com
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I would be very surprised if the Walther made safety did NOT work, but take a good look at your item and compare to the pictures of the Walther item online and go from there. I can compare to my Wathers if you send me some pictures of your safety.
I did replace a broken Indian trigger guard with a Walther USA made SS one years ago.
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02-21-2015, 11:44 AM
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Broken Safety on Indian Arms .380
This is the part I was talking about
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02-21-2015, 02:09 PM
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All of the parts in the Indian Arms 380 were investment cast stainless,,except for the bbl, screws, pins, firing pin, springs, ect...made from stock.
I think Gray-Syracuse Co here in NYS did the investment cast work as well as made the moulds for them. They did and probably still do quite a bit of work in the firearms mfg industry.
Investment casting was the way to go at the time for anyone wanting to become a gun mfg'r. The parts still needed machining to bring them to final spec, but it was a whole lot cheaper than mfg from a solid billet. The amt of machining done to the part varies with gun & mfg. Some it's hard to tell it started out as an investment cast, others look like they are nearly right from the cast.
The cost of the moulds is very high, one draw back.
I know of one mfg that started w/investment cast parts for his major components in the 90's and has since switched backover to machining from billets. The modern computer driven machine tools, edm and other processes along with their lower tool costs make it easier to produce parts.
Plus there is forever the stigma of the 'casting' that mfgs have to deal with.
Don't know about a Walther safety interchange with the Indian Arms part. There should be another 1/2 of the IA part still inside the frame if it is anything close to the Walther.
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02-21-2015, 02:36 PM
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Indian Arms .380s stood apart form their competition for two reasons: there were very few other stainless autos and the Indian Arms boasted a built in lock. All the ones I saw in stores in the early 1970s had the lock. The tubular key inserted into the safety barrel through the thumb piece. I don't know if they made them with and without the lock simultaneously. FWIW.
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02-21-2015, 02:53 PM
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Indian Arms .380s stood apart form their competition for two reasons: there were very few other stainless autos and the Indian Arms boasted a built in lock. All the ones I saw in stores in the early 1970s had the lock. The tubular key inserted into the safety barrel through the thumb piece. I don't know if they made them with and without the lock simultaneously. FWIW.
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Mine does not have a lock and I believe it was an early one. That was what the LGS said when I bought it about 1975. From what I have heard over the course of many years the safety system is a bit different between that and the Walther.
I did try to use a Walther magazine and it did not work. (Possibly a little filing and it might have worked as that was many years ago I tried it.) I did manage to find another Indian mag at a gun show and I always look when I see old mags for sale as I would like to have a couple more!
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02-23-2015, 11:42 AM
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Thank you for all the information. I appreciate it.
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Never heard of Indian Arms before, but that is one sweet little pistol. Hope you get it back in working order...
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Never heard of Indian Arms before, but that is one sweet little pistol. Hope you get it back in working order...
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They made a real nice gun. Problem was they sucked big time as business people. 
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That's a shame. Quite a few companies seem to follow that same path...
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Do you know if the Walther PPK/S safety is milled or cast. If it is cast then there is a good chance that it will break as did the Indian Arms .380. I have a feeling that it is milled though. You are right. The safety will fit if it is ground down just a little because it is just a slight longer in length.
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