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Old 03-14-2015, 09:57 AM
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This question doesn't fit neatly on any of the separate forums here, so I thought I would try this one.

I don't own any semi-autos, and so I don't know much about them. I have gathered that 1911s are single-action pistols, and this makes me curious about the trigger pull. On my Smith revolvers the SA pull of course has no discernible creep, moving & releasing only after the required pressure is applied to the trigger. Is it the same way with 1911s, or does the trigger travel a ways before the sear releases? If the latter, about how much creep/travel is there?

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Even a bullseye 1911 will have just a tiny bit of take up, but little or no creep or over travel. Most out of the box 1911's will require a bit of tuning to get that "glass rod" feel, but it's not real difficult to achieve. In the world of semi autos, the 1911 pretty much wins the good trigger contest going away.
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The 1911 SA design offers the same, excellent trigger pull with every shot.
While, as noted, there is a little creep, it generally is better than any other SA/DA out there.

This is one of the reasons the 1911 remains so popular. My mainstay is a 1911. I have many others, but NONE, (that is zero), have as nice a trigger as the 1911's.

Modern offerings of the 1911 include an additional safety, Swartz or Series 80, Firing Pin Block. Some complain that this changes things.
As long as the additional mechanical parts are operated by the grip safety, the trigger pull is not really affected.

Once you see how these JMB 1911 trigger/sear/hammer operate, you will find that this is about the closest thing to being connected directly to the sear.

Take up is discernable and adjustable.
Creep is minimal, but is very smooth.
Release is as crisp as can be.

If the stock, out-of-the-box isn't good enough, improvements can be made, by time tested, quantity validated, methods.

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And if you find the creep objectinable, you can get one of those triggers that has a set screw in the face of the trigger. The other end bears on the magazine release. Adjusst this so there's almost no motion after the sear is released.
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I put some moly on the sear and added the adjustable trigger. The trigger has less creep and a smoother trigger pull.
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Thanks again for the education, fellas.

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Modern offerings of the 1911 include an additional safety, Swartz or Series 80, Firing Pin Block.
Not all of the "modern offerings of the 1911" have these safeties. S&W, Kimber, SIG, and Colt are probably the best known brands that do, though Colt offers models without the S80 system. Springfield, Dan Wesson, RIA, Ruger, Les Baer are just a few brands that do not have additional firing pin safeties built into their guns. In fact, if someone were to check all of the 1911 manufacturers I'd bet there are far more guns being made without than with.
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Best trigger of any semi auto imo
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Not all of the "modern offerings of the 1911" have these safeties. S&W, Kimber, SIG, and Colt are probably the best known brands that do, though Colt offers models without the S80 system. Springfield, Dan Wesson, RIA, Ruger, Les Baer are just a few brands that do not have additional firing pin safeties built into their guns. In fact, if someone were to check all of the 1911 manufacturers I'd bet there are far more guns being made without than with.
Add the E series S&W to the don't have list. Some have added a light weight firing pin with a stiffer spring to provide the same function without the extra parts.
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