Summit gunbroker has rough but functional 870 wingmaster for 195 short barrel.opinions? I love the smooth action on them and thinking I may pick one up and add an extended mag tube later or Longer barrel for hunting/shooting sports etc....seems to be the best deal in a quality beater shotgun

Oops disregard. They seem to be sold out

Well Pilgrim, you had me hanging on every word.

Should been buying instead of telling us.

Tuco's scene in the Good, Bad and Ugly where he was sitting in the tub comes to mind, the guy was talking, after Tuco shot him he said if your gonna shoot, shoot.