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Old 12-25-2015, 12:34 AM
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Before I receive any hate mail let me first say I am a S&W man at heart in fact have a 4” 686 I have owned since 1984 which is why I bought a Rossi R85104 .38 special to keep in my truck. If someone ever broke in and stole one of my Smiths it would break my heart. Now the question, does any one know if any of the HKS 6 round speed loaders will work in this gun and if so which one? Thanks
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Old 12-25-2015, 01:11 AM
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I've never owned a Rossi, but if the 85104 has the dimensions of the 462 then it is almost identical to a K frame cylinder and an HKS speed loader for the Model 10 should work.

Also there is a lot of "slop" in how the rounds are held in the loader. I tested a Model 10 loader in a Detective Special and it worked fairly well. The Detective Special has a cylinder diameter which is .05 inches less than the Model 10.

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Old 12-25-2015, 01:20 AM
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No hatin' from this corner of the peanut gallery.

I have a Rossi 971 that is a fine 6-shot SS 357 snub. One of my favorites for CCW in fact. Nice smooth trigger, good fit & finish & I really like the fact that even though it is the same size as a 6-shot K-frame the grips are the size of a square-butt J-frame. big enough to get a nice grip on it, but still more concealable than even a round butt K-frame. Or at least for me.
And the same 6-shot speedloaders that work for my 13-1 & 15-5, also work with it.
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Old 12-25-2015, 01:42 AM
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Thanks, I kinda figured a HKS 10A would work but wanted to check. I had a couple of them years ago but let them go with a model 64 I had, wish I still had it.
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Old 12-25-2015, 01:58 AM
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Makes sense to me. I have several S&W revolvers including a 686 I bought in 1988. I would hate to have one spend time in an evidence locker. Currently I rely on a worn ex-Aussie M10 from Buds. But I'd have no problem with a Rossi or TUrus.
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No hate here. I had a older 971 2". That gun was a twin to the Model 66. It seamed to be built as good as any of my Smiths. I loved the grip and it shot 357 ammo just fine. I used it in my CCW Class shooting Remington 357 JHP. Then I got a bad case of Stupid. Thought I had too many 357s. I sold the gun and a few others. Now I still feel stupid for selling it.
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Old 12-25-2015, 08:24 PM
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I don't know a thing about the recent stuff (Braztech), but the early Rossi guns (Interarms imports) were very well built knock-off's of some Smith models. Those little M88's are practically a spitin' image of a M60 and can still be had for well under $300. The innards are not exactly S&W spec. parts, but to the unknowing...the differences are not noticeable. I keep an 88 in my desk and in my truck.
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No hate here. I had a older 971 2". That gun was a twin to the Model 66. It seamed to be built as good as any of my Smiths. I loved the grip and it shot 357 ammo just fine. I used it in my CCW Class shooting Remington 357 JHP...
Yup, that's the same one I have.

I just looked at the R85104 online. Pretty much the exact same gun as the 971 but chambered in 38 spl instead of 357 and with a 4" barrel instead of a 2" barrel.

So yeah, the H&K 10A speedloaders will work. And K-frame holsters too.

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I used to have a 3" stainless Rossi 851 in 38 special back in my poor college student days. It was my one and only 38 back then. It was nicely built, had a good action and never hiccuped though many hundreds of rounds of range work. Somewhat regret selling it actually.
Anyway, yes, a K frame speed loader will work.
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Old 12-26-2015, 12:55 AM
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I have an old used 851 as my bed stand gun (it's from the old wood grips days). I bought it on the off chance I have to kill somebody I don't want the cops taking one of my more expensive guns in evidence. That said, it's a good gun with a good trigger and it shoots well. I was shocked when I had it out to the range. I would recommend one to anybody.
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I don't know a thing about the recent stuff (Braztech), but the early Rossi guns (Interarms imports) were very well built knock-off's of some Smith models. Those little M88's are practically a spitin' image of a M60 and can still be had for well under $300. The innards are not exactly S&W spec. parts, but to the unknowing...the differences are not noticeable. I keep an 88 in my desk and in my truck.
I bought one of the older ones new, years ago, and it was a very nice little revolver for under $200 NIB. I had a smith bob the hammer and polish the innards, and carried it for a year or two before I got my 640. Shot well. Fit and finish weren't the equal of Smith revolvers, but were surprisingly close. I liked it just fine, but I wanted a Smith for obvious reasons.
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