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Glock 43 awful design
Ever since I bought my G43, it has been sent to Glock 2x for issues feeding Critical Defense. At first it would only load every other one, and there would be a round stuck at the entrance of the feed ramp. Sent it back, they told me it was fixed, it shoots 5 rounds of critical defense but the last round in magazine won't load. Sent it back, then they told me they could not find anything wrong and it shoots fine but they are replacing the followers. Well I now don't trust this gun at all and think it's just a poor design. Yes some G43 owners have no issues but mine won't work. I also looking at connectors like Ghost but hear too many people having some issues with gun firing both on the pull and reset and a host of other issues. I think I will sell this and stick to my shield
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I have a G43 and think it will take it's rightful place as one of Glock's
best models in time. I think it's an outstanding design. ANY semi auto
is likely to be somewhat picky about ammo. Maybe you should stop
trying to tell your G43 what ammo it should shoot and let it tell you.
Maybe you would feel better about it if you let an experienced shooter
check it out. If not then do it a favor by selling it.
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Sounds like a case of the first release blues.
Many early adopters have had issues. The latest batches have been better.
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No problems with my wife's==grip is too small for me, so I carry a G27. First rule, as stated above, let it tell you what it likes. My G27 likes Hornady 180 XTPs. Wife' G43 and G26 like Federals. I always run at least 3 sets of various loads through each magazine, and, if no problems, runs at least two of my chosen SD ammo before carrying it. No FTF in hers or mine (G26,G27,G22, and G43). Still think they are ugly, though!
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I made the mistake of buying one of the first .380 Glocks and it was a disaster, every failure a semi auto can experience. Went back to the factory three times before I got sick of it and let it go. In addition the people at Glock acted like they were doing me a favor by even talking to me. Their attitude was the problem must be me since their guns did not malfunction. Lesson learned.
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I recently replaced an LCP with a G42 and it has been completely trouble free. I don't know the build date but it came with series 3 mags which are the latest change.
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Don't see this as an awful design problem. It's the same design as every other Glock pistol in the known universe, and they've made millions of the things. The only difference is the size.
Every Glock I've had (I'm down to just one now) has fed everything I've run through them.
Sounds as if Glock has done everything they can to make it work for you, short of just giving you a new pistol. Time to either try some different ammo, or if you don't trust the pistol any more, just sell it and go back to something you do trust.
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I made the mistake of buying one of the first .380 Glocks and it was a disaster, every failure a semi auto can experience. Went back to the factory three times before I got sick of it and let it go. In addition the people at Glock acted like they were doing me a favor by even talking to me. Their attitude was the problem must be me since their guns did not malfunction. Lesson learned.
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Wow that sucks. Sorry you had that problem. When I sent them my G21 bought used, they found a few pitting spots and called me to tell me they were sending me a new gun .....if I didn't mind. They even swapped my night sights onto the new one and gave me extra mags. From shipping out to receiving. ...about 3 weeks
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Not a design flaw -- too many working properly to call it that -- but a build flaw, very possibly.
I know it runs for some, and I like it in revolvers, but as a hard rule I won't use Hornady's polymer tipped rounds in any semiauto -- two things that just don't seem wisely paired.
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Not a design flaw -- too many working properly to call it that -- but a build flaw, very possibly.
I know it runs for some, and I like it in revolvers, but as a hard rule I won't use Hornady's polymer tipped rounds in any semiauto -- two things that just don't seem wisely paired.
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I agree with you, I too had issues with Hornadys polymer tipped in my LC9. It will eat anything but those. Did I get rid of the gun because of this? heck no.
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I always break any new handgun in with at least 250 rounds of ball ammo before I try anything else, then see what it likes. My son has a 43 and this is what we did and his shoots everything we have put in it including Critical Defense, which I think he carries in it now. Not saying you didn't, maybe you got a lemon.
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Wow, you sound unhappy - so sorry you had that experience. Mine shoots like a dream: accurate and reliable over several hundred rounds now.
You do know there have been two magazine revisions, right?
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I own NO Glock's or any Polymer pistols for that matter, but the ONE THING I have to commend Glock for is their record of reliability. Many of my friends have them in all calibers and sizes and while I am sure some do eventually have a FTF, I've never personally witnessed one.
I'd contact Glock and tell them you NO LONGER trust this firearm for self defense. If you have the paper work proof to back it up they might give you a new one. I did this years ago with a S&W M10 2" RB that just jammed up once in a while (when it felt like it) for no specific reason. After two supposed repair trips back to the Factory they could not find any problem but I told them I could not stake my life on a Revolver that just jams up for no apparent reason. They agreed, destroyed it and gave me a brand new Revolver right off their assembly line and put my serial # on it. This was all done while I waited! Admittedly, this was in the early 1980's when the customer was always right but it's worth a shot! That's what I would do.
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Sorry to hear that - mine is flawless.
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I sent a G21 back to Glock 6 times
because of jamming problems, when that model first came out years ago. Each time I got the 21 back it still jammed, Glock told me how there was nothing wrong with it but each time there was noticeable evidence of the gun being modified in various ways. After 6 times I asked Glock to replace the gun. I was told that Gaston Glock himself had to approve any replacement Glocks...so I told them to give him a call and apparently they did since I got a brand new Glock a week of so later. That's the only Glock I've ever had a problem with and the company took care of it. I own a half dozen Glocks now and trust them to work every time. My fave is the G19.
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I think I will sell this and stick to my shield
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Probably a wise move. If you have a Shield and like it, I'd stick with what works for you. Trusting a gun is important when your life may depend on it.
I trust my G43. It has been flawless. Each gun and each gun owner are different. Enjoy your Shield. They are excellent guns.
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Just saw this thread. My Glock 43 has been flawless, not a single problem, not a single malfunction, nothing but a great shooter.
I carry it almost all the time and when I don't, I carry my "old" S&W 642.
I have only had it a few months, but some of the finish is wearing off, probably from brushing the buckle of my belt as I carry it AIWB.
Probably the best semi I have ever owned.
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What Erich said! I love my 43 and have not had a single issue with it. Not to mention it carries so easily. I've been using a Remora holster but have been thing about a Lobo Enhanced Pancake or Offset clip....Any other suggestions on a different holster?
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Up date on Glock 43:
We have had 2 issues with design of the Glock 43. Each was a very simple 10 minute fix.
1. The rear of the slide is too narrow for some people to adequately grip. We replaced the slide end plate with one having "wings". This made cocking the slide much easier for my wife.
2. The G26 was too wide for my wife and the G43 was much better. However, it was too short as she likes to have her little finger on the grip. Adding a Pearce Plus 2 (even if we don't load the "Plus 2") made it much more comfortable.
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Another vote for the G43!
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Another good reason not to buy a used semi-auto.
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What Erich said! I love my 43 and have not had a single issue with it. Not to mention it carries so easily. I've been using a Remora holster but have been thing about a Lobo Enhanced Pancake or Offset clip....Any other suggestions on a different holster?
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I use an OWB DeSantis holster which carries both the G42 and G43 beautifully.
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Did the OP ever let somebody else shoot it?
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I don't have a lot of extra room left for IWB but I was considering one of these. RapidTuck IWB Hybrid by Vedder Holsters
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Did the OP ever let somebody else shoot it?
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That is an excellent point to bring up. The book I have on Glocks points out that they require a higher hand position than do most other autos
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That is an excellent point to bring up. The book I have on Glocks points out that they require a higher hand position than do most other autos
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If you let a Glock move around in your hand too much, all that energy that should be focused on extracting and loading is wasted in the wiggling around. And when it comes right down to it, there isn't any gunsmithing, fitting or tweaking to a Glock that the factory will do, other than the different trigger springs . . .
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I've shot fmj's in mine for break in and function check. Just finished testing Hornady xtphp's in all 3 bullet weights in handloads. 100% all the way. Sorry. Mine is now my all day, everyday carry
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I'd expect the 43 is as good as any other tiny 9mm pistol, probably better than most. It probably won't forgive certain ammo or grip deficiencies, good stuff to work out before you ever have to use it for real I guess.
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Ever since I bought my G43, it has been sent to Glock 2x for issues feeding Critical Defense. At first it would only load every other one, and there would be a round stuck at the entrance of the feed ramp. Sent it back, they told me it was fixed, it shoots 5 rounds of critical defense but the last round in magazine won't load. Sent it back, then they told me they could not find anything wrong and it shoots fine but they are replacing the followers. Well I now don't trust this gun at all and think it's just a poor design. Yes some G43 owners have no issues but mine won't work. I also looking at connectors like Ghost but hear too many people having some issues with gun firing both on the pull and reset and a host of other issues. I think I will sell this and stick to my shield
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Just out of curiosity, what does replacing the connector have to do with feeding issues?
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I remember a while back when the OP was
complaining about his G42 .380 and now he is complaining
about his G43 9mm. I have both and have experienced great
reliability with both of them. The early .380s did have some
problems with reliability and I assumed that Glock had some
difficulty with adapting their design to the lower power of the
.380 ctg. Their first model was a 9mm and Glock seems to
have the 9mm pretty well figured out and apparently have
many in use all over the world.
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No problems with my wife's==grip is too small for me, so I carry a G27. First rule, as stated above, let it tell you what it likes. My G27 likes Hornady 180 XTPs. Wife' G43 and G26 like Federals. I always run at least 3 sets of various loads through each magazine, and, if no problems, runs at least two of my chosen SD ammo before carrying it. No FTF in hers or mine (G26,G27,G22, and G43). Still think they are ugly, though!
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I have a G-26 Gen 4. I consider Glocks the AK47 of handguns. Butt ugly but will shoot every time.
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I have a G-26 Gen 4. I consider Glocks the AK47 of handguns. Butt ugly but will shoot every time.
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Hey ugly is scarey! Isn't that what you want? You want the
bad guy to start shaking in his boots just at the sight of your
gun, right? You want the bad guy to say...awww what a cute
little gun you have there??? NO. Seriously to my eyes at least some of the Glocks like the 42, 43 and 19 for
examples have very clean lines compared to some of the
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I could not think of a better solution for you in this case. For other folks with a similar problem, I would recommend they shift away from that Critical Defense and to something like Federal HST or Winchester PDx, but honestly, sell this one, stick with your Shield.
My wife carries a no safety Shield that has proven to be both reliable and accurate, if slightly bulkier then my perfectly running Kahr PM9, but that's fine, both for her and I.
I run Critical Defense in my PM9, but will discontinue using this once the current boxes are rotated through as carry ammo. My buddy, a town cop, reported issues with the polymer ball getting gummy and hanging up on his LCP feed ramp, and I could see where that could happen, so I am moving to Federal or Winchester I think.
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I don't own a 43, but have fired one when it was relatively new and few rounds down the pipe and it functioned flawlessly for me (124 gr FMJ). Right after the introduction of the Shield, John Connor wrote an article about it for American Handgunner. He recommended a thorough cleaning and lube before firing, and to begin with ball. I don't recall he had any complaints after this process. I applied his advice to two Shields I bought before Christmas, and neither has suffered any type of malfunction (and I even used Ranger 147 bonded to break in the first rather than ball). I bought my first Glock, a Gen1 17 in 1987 when they were still pretty new. About the only semi auto training I'd had at that point was what the Army Infantry School managed to give to platoon leaders (not much), and I was a revolver shooter for the most part prior to then. I initially experienced a number of feeding issues with that Glock until the gun writers started to address some common shooting errors such as limp wristing. Once I readjusted my grip technique, I was competent enough to breeze through a Border Patrol transition course to carry that same pistol on duty. Since then, I have carried every generation of Glock and have had no issues. That said, all subcompact and micro pistols can be temperamental and one should adjust his/her thinking when choosing to carry one. If a particular pistol doesn't like particular brand of ammo, switch to another. If it doesn't like any configuration of SD ammo, then it's a factor that has to be addressed. I have also fired two G42s. One ran a mix of factory HP ammo and worked. The other was being broken in with some cheap, "store" brand FMJ and wouldn't feed. I told the shooter to invest in some name brand of ammo before taking more drastic steps. Sometimes it is the guns fault, but one has to eliminate all other possibilities. I have no problems with a G43, but prefer the Shield myself.
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Just for the record, my Glock 43 gobbles Hornady Critical Duty 135-gr +P rounds (with a similar bullet profile to that their Critical Defense presents) like I used to eat jellybeans at Easter.
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Ever since I bought my G43, it has been sent to Glock 2x for issues feeding Critical Defense. At first it would only load every other one, and there would be a round stuck at the entrance of the feed ramp. Sent it back, they told me it was fixed, it shoots 5 rounds of critical defense but the last round in magazine won't load. Sent it back, then they told me they could not find anything wrong and it shoots fine but they are replacing the followers. Well I now don't trust this gun at all and think it's just a poor design. Yes some G43 owners have no issues but mine won't work. I also looking at connectors like Ghost but hear too many people having some issues with gun firing both on the pull and reset and a host of other issues. I think I will sell this and stick to my shield
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So Glock's 43 is a poor design because your example won't reliably feed one particular type of ammo? Have you tried other ammo? Different mags? The basis from which you form an opinion is not very scientific, in fact it's very weak. Not a Glock boy, but appreciate them for what they are. My G43 works fine with Critical Defense and every other type of ammo I've fed it. Hope you get it figured out.
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Just sell it, don't torture yourself. I finally sold my Glock 23 because I became tired of not being able to put 100 ball rounds through it without some malf. Worse, the malf became my fault. Adios, muchacho. Much prefer my Wyatts and 340s; I'm not a J-hound for nothing.
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Location: Lost Wages, NV
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Originally Posted by kaaskop49
Just sell it, don't torture yourself. I finally sold my Glock 23 because I became tired of not being able to put 100 ball rounds through it without some malf. Worse, the malf became my fault. Adios, muchacho. Much prefer my Wyatts and 340s; I'm not a J-hound for nothing.
Kaaskop49
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I shot a 23C many years ago and thought it was a nasty little thing. Never had any malfunctions, but I found 40 S&W to be a snappy round at the best of times. A quick mag out of that 23C left my palms tingling in a way I've never experience with anything else except .357 in a 3 inch Model 65 with thin grips.
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