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Old 02-04-2016, 11:02 PM
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This isn't the prettiest thing but it has a bit of history. 1916 New Service in .455 Eley carried by a trooper in the Fort Garry Horse of the CEF during WW I. That regiment later became the Canadian 10th Armoured in WW II and had a distinguished record fighting through Northern Europe following D-Day.

The gun has regimental markings as well as Canadian broad arrows.
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You shouldn't mislead people by titling your thread "NEW Colt". I almost didn't bother looking, because who cares about new Colts?

Old Colts, on the other hand, are wonderful. Great historical piece!
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Old 02-05-2016, 08:19 AM
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You shouldn't mislead people by titling your thread "NEW Colt". I almost didn't bother looking, because who cares about new Colts?

Old Colts, on the other hand, are wonderful. Great historical piece!
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Old 02-05-2016, 09:03 AM
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Sailor,
That's a really cool piece you have there. Not many of our guns can claim much of a story but yours can. Thanks for sharing this piece of history..

I don't know much about pre WWII guns. What are those grips/stocks made out of? If wood, they sure are in great condition.
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Very Nice looking New Service! And for the record, I open any thread that has the word "Colt" in it.
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Sailor,
That's a really cool piece you have there. Not many of our guns can claim much of a story but yours can. Thanks for sharing this piece of history..

I don't know much about pre WWII guns. What are those grips/stocks made out of? If wood, they sure are in great condition.
From the Coltfever website.....

"The New Service was made from 1898 to 1942.
From 1898 to the late 1920's it had hard black rubber grips with molded in checkering and Colt logos. After that it came with checkered walnut grips with silver Colt medallions.
It was made in barrel lengths of 4", 4 1/2", 5", 5 1/2", 6", and 7 1/2"."

The grips do appear to be in good shape. I've seen some with pretty significant pieces split off, especially at the butt.
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That's a beauty. I've always had a thing for those big Colt New Service revolvers. The only one I could afford is a re-blued 1917 in .45 ACP but it satisfied the desire.
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One thing I've noticed is that this one has an upper case "R" stamped on the frame just above the grip and again on the bottom the butt. Not sure of the meaning....anyone know?

I was thinking maybe it indicates armoury (R)epaired or (R)efurbished? Just a guess on my part.
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The Colt New Service revolvers and Krag-Jorgenson rifles captured my attention and have held it ever since the 1981 movie Death Hunt.

Charles Bronson and Lee Marvin played two great parts.
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One thing I've noticed is that this one has an upper case "R" stamped on the frame just above the grip and again on the bottom the butt. Not sure of the meaning....anyone know?

I was thinking maybe it indicates armoury (R)epaired or (R)efurbished? Just a guess on my part.
It could well mean that, but it is not, as far as I know, a factory mark. I suspect it may be from a Canadian arsenal. I have a moderate number of Colts, including a US Army Model 1901 revolver refurbished on an official Army contract in 1918, with no such stamp and have never come across it (which, of course, may just demonstrate my limited experience ).

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Just an interesting aside but a member of the Fort Garry Horse is responsible for the original Winnie the Pooh.

History of Winnie the Pooh

I'm not sure how successful you would be getting on a troopship with your pet bear today.

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One thing I've noticed is that this one has an upper case "R" stamped on the frame just above the grip and again on the bottom the butt. Not sure of the meaning....anyone know?

I was thinking maybe it indicates armoury (R)epaired or (R)efurbished? Just a guess on my part.
I'm pretty sure Colt stamped the right side of the trigger guard web with their repair/rework stamp which is typically a & ampersand.

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Congrats, those New Service Colts are amazing.
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I am asking the question because I don't know the answer. I do know that the M1909 version of the New Service had the longer ejector rod knob with two circumferential grooves, as this one does. Other NS revolvers I have seen (including the M1917) have a shorter knob with only one circumferential groove. So what Colt NS revolvers have which knob?
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I had one of those .455 New Service revolvers a few years back. Mine had been converted to .45 Colt. It was a good shooter.
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This isn't the prettiest thing but it has a bit of history...
Good history trumps prettiness in my book.

That's a winner. I wish I owned it, but it belongs in Canada.
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This is Ser#105688, which I think puts it at 1916 also. It was originally .455, was re-chambered to .45 Colt before I got it. It has the crossed flags all over it, which is British, if I'm not mistaken. There's also a crown, and a couple other markings which I always figured were British. I never put that much into looking up who it went to, since it was .455, I knew it wasn't ours!

The inside of the stag is marked, "Harrelson, R.L. USN", so I'm guessing it eventually made its way into the hands of an American sailor. It came from the estate of an old collector, and there were pieces there from the mid 1860's, and lots of Colts.

I had it bobbed to 2.50", since it had already been altered. I'd always wanted a big-bore snubby, and I bought it with that intent.
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I like your New Service snub. They are attention getters. Here's mine.



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I like your New Service snub. They are attention getters. Here's mine.



I'm very jealous.....I'd love to have a snub but our stupid Canadian gun laws make that impossible.
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