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Old 02-07-2016, 07:15 PM
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Anyone have any good or bad words with regard to this Canadian semi-automatic pistol, its un-fired and is accompanied with three original Canadian magazines and two after market.
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Anyone have any good or bad words with regard to this Canadian semi-automatic pistol, its un-fired and is accompanied with three original Canadian magazines and two after market.
I had the frame kit built in the late 1980's by a friend that was a custom gunsmith. Great gun never a problem with it. The upper was all Colt Series 70 with a match barrel. A Marine officer paid me about half again what I had in it and considering I had six M1911's, I let it go. Been kicking myself ever since.
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I have two Paras, but they are LDA's. One is a single stack and one is a double stack. Both are as accurate as you could ask for, they have functioned flawlessly for around 15 years. These guns are the ones I carry when I suspect there might be trouble! (If I know there will be trouble, I will be elsewhere!)

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I carried one size smaller, the P-12, cocked and locked for several years during the 1990s. Awesome package for that much firepower (if you feel you need that) which carried very comfortably IWB, and one spare mag was enough. I did get a two-part guide rod put in; reliability with HP was outstanding. I originally carried Black Talons, and after those became politically incorrect collectors items, switched to Federal Hydra-Shoks, with no issues ever.

I only stopped carrying the P-12 after I got so old that I downgraded my life's importance to the level of a 5-shot J-frame .
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Own three of them-had them since the early 90's. One factory steel frame, two custom guns built on Para frames - one alloy and one steel, both with Colt 70 slides. They are my "go to" 1911 carry guns, and I have a bunch of Colt single stack 1911's. The Para's are reliable, accurate and hold a bunch of fat 45's, have a couple of ammo cans full of Mec Gar mag's, so I am good to go. I thought they were a great idea 25 years ago, and still do today.

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Got mine way back when the gun finally came out with all the bells and whistles. Haven't a shot it in a while but when I did it had no problems. It's my gun if all heck breaks loose. Have 13 mags and only one is a 10 rd. It's a P-14. Larry

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Have two p-13s (had 3). Removed the plastic parts and had trigger job and a little tuning. Been my carry guns for years (20+), but recently switched to an S&W M&P9C due to weight and size (now 79). The P-13 with two extra mags is great for "pray and spray" but really heavy. Miss the great trigger.
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I had an early Canadian frame kit built into an IPSC competition gun. Never had any problems with it.
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I have a Para made P13 all stainless that had the plastic parts changed out to steel. It shoots the Lyman H&G #68 clone cast bullet flawlessly. I have shot maybe 50 rounds of 230 FMJ reloads through with no problem. With 13 round mag it makes one really big hole in the paper at 15 yards about 2-12" in diameter.
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I think its factory grip panels and maybe frame are a bit slimmer than others since it fits well in the hand for a double stack .45.
With some Novak tritium sights it would be much better.
That can be done, but its not cheap due to the required milling.
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I bought an early Para-Ordnance P-14 frame kit (S/N PG005714) before they began to assemble complete guns. The kit included the frame, magazines, trigger and bow, magazine release assembly and the longer pins needed to install standard parts in the wider frame.

I bought a Colt Government Combat slide and barrel from Ashland shooters Supply. This slide had rugged, fixed, large hi-viz sights already, as well as a beveled and opened, lowered ejection port. I had it roughly together but had my friend and gunsmith Danny Woo fit a few minor things and check my work.

My frame is aluminum, and loaded with 14 rounds of .45 ACP, the gun weighs about the same as a standard 1911 loaded with 8 of the same rounds.

I shot a few boxes of ball through it, but it didn't really do anything I needed to be done. A high-capacity 1911 was pretty unique then, so it had ghee-whizz factors few others had. It's still in the safe.
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AJ, like you I bought a kit in the '80s, but an idiot - me - assembled Colt Series 70 parts to it. Didn't work worth a hoot.
Finally took it to a gunsmith who fixed all the, ahem, problems, and it worked like a champ. I had a total of five Para magazines for it. Years later I sold it to a gunsmith. I think he had it a whole two months before a military man bought it from him. He paid MUCHO over what I had put into it, including the gunsmith services!

I don't miss it because it was the original square, thick frame. Later ones were slimmer.
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AJ, like you I bought a kit in the '80s, but an idiot - me - assembled Colt Series 70 parts to it. Didn't work worth a hoot.
Finally took it to a gunsmith who fixed all the, ahem, problems, and it worked like a champ. I had a total of five Para magazines for it. Years later I sold it to a gunsmith. I think he had it a whole two months before a military man bought it from him. He paid MUCHO over what I had put into it, including the gunsmith services!

I don't miss it because it was the original square, thick frame. Later ones were slimmer.
Mine was the square frame also. However, it felt good in my hands.
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I had one and traded it to my buddy for a nice model 10 RHKP. Kind of wish I had it back but I have several 1911 pistols already. Those Canadian Paras are good guns--heavy but good.
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