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HOW DO YOU OPEN THE DARN THING!
Cannot figure how to open this thing up, a little help would be appreciated, oh and where can I pick up a cheap set of grips for it.
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Don't believe that is a S&W. What are the markings?
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That's some kind of foreign copy of a Smith & Wesson, probably Belgian or Spanish. It looks similar to a large frame double action top break. Maybe it's just gummed up? The latch at the top should just pivot upward.
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Oh never mind, just looked at it and found a bull pawing the ground in a circle with YAHCA REGISTRADA encircling it just above the grip. Definitely not a Smith, oops trash.
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oops trash.
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I'd hold off on the "trash talk" until after shooting it. It's built well enough you thought it was a Smith!
The tricky part will be finding stocks that fit.
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I'd hold off on the "trash talk" until after shooting it. It's built well enough you thought it was a Smith!
The tricky part will be finding stocks that fit.
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^^^^ what he said
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Top break revolvers usually release to open by lifting the rear sight.
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That large round area under the barrel and forward of the trigger is the pivot point. From the photo, I am guessing that the knurled roundish piece above the hammer is the release. Normally you lift up on the knurled piece while pushing down on the barrel and the grip frame and she opens up like a hinge.
The release may be gummed up and may require some Kroil or breakfree or CLP to make it work easier. Also this action usually causes the extractor star to extend upward to eject any rounds in the cylinder.
Most likely a foreign copy of a S&W top break but many of these guns were good enough copies that they function well. Probably not much collector value but still could be fun to shoot. After all, thats what they were designed to do anyway. 
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From the one photo it looks to be fairly well made, go over it carefully and you just might have a neat little shooter. Wont have to worry about ruining the "collector value".
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just looked at it and found a bull pawing the ground
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Early, early Taurus?
Looks like a lever above the hammer. Does it rotate?
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Spraying everything down with WD40 may be another way to loosen everything up and has the benefit of being cheap and readily available.
Are there any proof marks on the gun? I wonder if it was meant for black powder only.
There are some folks who can essentially whittle a set of grips. I used to know a guy in SC that did it as a hobby.
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Don't force it. Get a bigger hammer.
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I would say, the small shelf that makes up the rear sight, either try pulling it back or maybe pushing down on the front at the sides.
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f you ever want to have fun at the expense of a gun guy; hand them a Smith & Wesson .38 Perfected to open. It was the answer to a question nobody asked or maybe the best of both worlds.
The nickel handgun at the top is a Perfected.
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That large round area under the barrel and forward of the trigger is the pivot point. From the photo, I am guessing that the knurled roundish piece above the hammer is the release. Normally you lift up on the knurled piece while pushing down on the barrel and the grip frame and she opens up like a hinge.
The release may be gummed up and may require some Kroil or breakfree or CLP to make it work easier. Also this action usually causes the extractor star to extend upward to eject any rounds in the cylinder.
Most likely a foreign copy of a S&W top break but many of these guns were good enough copies that they function well. Probably not much collector value but still could be fun to shoot. After all, thats what they were designed to do anyway. |
In a by gone era I saved my old lawn mower oil. with a rusted up weapon such as yours I would place the weapon in a turkey roaster and cover the weapon with lawnmower oil for a few days. screws and parts would come out without effort.
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"...hand them a Smith & Wesson .38 Perfected to open. It was the answer to a question nobody asked or maybe the best of both worlds"
The legend is that a BG could reach over the top of a top break revolver and open it, rendering the revolver useless (at least for shooting). That wouldn't work with the perfected. I can't imagine anyone allowing the BG to get that close to them. Regardless, it must have happened enough for S&W to change the locking mechanism.
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In a by gone era I saved my old lawn mower oil. with a rusted up weapon such as yours I would place the weapon in a turkey roaster and cover the weapon with lawnmower oil for a few days. screws and parts would come out without effort.
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What temp do you recommend? I believe 350 degrees for about an hour a pound would be about right.
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In a by gone era I saved my old lawn mower oil. with a rusted up weapon such as yours I would place the weapon in a turkey roaster and cover the weapon with lawnmower oil for a few days. screws and parts would come out without effort.
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Diesel also works.
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Probbebly a WW I revolver. Spanish made. Quality is not that bad.
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Cannot figure how to open this thing up, a little help would be appreciated, oh and where can I pick up a cheap set of grips for it.
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That lever on the left side, in front of the hammer must have a purpose. Can't think of what else it would be for.
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