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Old 02-13-2016, 03:36 PM
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Sometimes things play out strangely.
My grandfather, who had a pecan and peach orchard in North Texas, died when I was 14. Last year my mom gave me his knife that he used to graft trees, a well-worn folder made by Bridge Cutlery and handled by Shapleigh Hardware in St. Louis.

Last year, when visiting my uncle who is ancient, I mentioned I remembered my g'dad shooting jackrabbits from his 8N with a .22 pistol. My mom had no recollection of any guns around the house but it was something I vividly remembered. My uncle said he had it stashed away and pulled out a slick Colt Woodsman. I admired it and told him to give me a call if he felt like he ever needed to rid himself of it. He said it would most likely go to his grandson and I agreed it would be a good idea. Not long ago, I grabbed one of the same vintage, figuring it would be the next best thing.

Yesterday, my aunt, who has never liked me (probably because she was so damn good looking and I was always staring at her as a perverted yout), called and said she was going to be passing through and wanted to drop something off. Lo and behold, it was my granddad's 1939 Colt! She didn't know her husband had it and didn't want her grandson to have any guns. I thanked her profusely but she still wouldn't let me hug her.
I'll probably keep it until they are gone and evaluate whether their grandson is worthy to become its caretaker. Anyway, funny how things work out. Now I have two of those old Colts.
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I have carried a pre war Woodsman for 40 years. Mine looks kinda rough from our adventures together. These little guns are the premier 22 pistols in the world. Others have tried to compete and their are some nice pistols out there but they do not compare to the quality of pre war Colt's. Combine that and realize this is another John Browning design and you have the makings of a classic firearm. I hope you do not ruin that nice gun by refurbishing it. Tell us about that old pocket knife too.
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That's a great story. Being totally honest here, I'd have to think long and hard about letting that pistol go. I know it'd be "the right thing to do" to let it go to the grandson, but still...
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What I was actually looking for was a picture of your aunt.
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Nice ending to this story. I agree with watch dog, a little research to see why she did not want him to have it might be in order.

My uncle had a 1950 High Standard Sport King. I loved that pistol and he knew it. I had left a standing if you ever want to sell it please call me.

One day he called, asked me to come by. He gave me the pistol, wouldn't take any money, FYI he was really well off and didn't need it.

I asked and he told me why it was me over his family. He took his son hunting and shooting but the son did not own a gun or hunt, however he did run bars and had sort of distanced himself from the family. His grandson, the son of his son had crashed down the gate to drugs, dope, crack and all illegal things. He had several felonies and my uncle did not want him to have it. One of his daughters married a preacher who says guns are evil. Wasn't going there. The other daughter and her husband ran a gun free environment. Not going there.

He also said he enjoyed hunting with me when I was young and for some goofy reason always wished his son was like me. Well embarrassed and all I profusely thanked him and now have it. His daughters told me I should have picked up his rifles and shotguns too, said he did not offer and I did not ask, I don't think he is yet ready to part with them but he told me he wanted the HS out of the house due to bad grandson.

Funny thing, he was afraid the gun might come back on him, he told me to throw it in a lake when I was done with it. I promised to never sell it.

My son fell in love with it immediately, He covets it. My son is a good person, ex Marine, desert Storm. He drives a long ways to help when I need it. So I've been calling him "thrown in the Lake" for a while. I told him I'd tell him why some day. That'll be when he opens the pistol rug.

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You are the grandson. The other fellow is just the great-grandson. Works for me.

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Old 02-15-2016, 02:07 AM
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I'd say the original Hi-Standard .22 autos are just as good as the Colt Woodsman, but the Woodsman has more class and a better finish. I no longer have any Woodsmen (sigh), but I still have one H-S. I don't remember it ever malfunctioning after many thousands of rounds, 100% reliable.
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Interesting story- and a nice gun! Congrats on ending up with it
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Nice that's it's staying in the family either way. You could always hang on to it, and designate him as next in line for it.

My uncle bought a Huntsman in 1956. He passed it along to me not too long before he died. I used it a few years ago when I was qualifying for autos on my CCW. It's simply one of the most accurate bottom feeders I've ever shot, and I think of him every time I shoot it. They're a heck of a .22.
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Anyone remember the Iver Johnson version of the Woodsman?
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Anyone remember the Iver Johnson version of the Woodsman?
I remember seeing pictures but never saw one in the flesh. About that time I bought a Woodsman from a fellow student for $10 and was content. Could not afford another firearm in any case.
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Congratulations on a great heirloom. Now you have everyone's curiosity up... any pictures of your aunt?
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Old 02-16-2016, 05:27 PM
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Kind of a sad story with a happy ending. Sure seems like that Woodsman's in just the right place.

Dang, my Mom had three sisters and not one of them ever warranted a second look.
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:30 PM
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I've seen several of the IJ Woodsmans, but not recently. They look like a Woodsman, but the finish is nothing like Colt's, sort of a dull blue-black as I remember. Having neither owned nor fired one, I can't say much about them beyond that.
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My Woodsman went back a forth between members of my wife’s family. I first saw it about 45 years ago and recognized it as a Match Target. Unfortunately, the grips had been changed and a new rear sight professionally milled into the slide along with 4 holes drilled and tapped into the top of the barrel. The pistol came to me after my father-in-law’s passing when we were cleaning out his workshop. The rear sight was missing and the finish was damaged from sitting in a drawer for 25 years without any oil or other protection. After not being able to find a rear sight that fit the custom milling on the slide I bought a slide off ebay and put on a micro sight out of my spare parts. I bought the current set of grips from one of the forum members. A good detailed stripping and cleaning brought back that crisp trigger pull but there is not much that can be done for the finish. It still shoots great and is a keeper due to the family connection.
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The Woodsman was the first .22 autoloader I got to shoot, and I was impressed by the slim lines and balance of the pistol. I managed to get an old beater that I reblued, got rid of that and bought one that was almost NIB in the box. I sold that too. About 20 years back I came across a well used specimen at the LGS. Bought it and haven't looked back ... this one isn't going anywhere.

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Great pistol, neat story with sentimental ties. I especially like the pre-war sport model! Like Skeeter Skelton's first time pistol shooting with his dad's.
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My father bought a new Match Target in '52. I was born in '55, when I was 14 I found the Woodsman in his closet. I took the gun and shot nearly 1000 rounds through it. Returning the gun without cleaning it.
He never said a word and I didn't see it again.
The end of the '80s and my dad was having health issues and my mom told me she called the police and had them take his gun..
I was on the phone with a dealer and the police within minutes, fearing if I didn't get the gun ASAP it would disappear.

Luckily I found an LGS in New Jersey that went and picked up the gun and sent it to me in California.
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Lots of Woodsman stories, not surprising considering they were popular throughout most of the 20th Century.
This one belonged to my father in law's old friend and hunting partner. He ordered it when he was getting ready to leave the Navy and come home after WW II. It was waiting for him at a local hardware store.
I'd see Bill now and then and he'd always say "we'll talk about my guns when the time comes" until one day he said the time had come.
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Like this one??




I bought a number of Iver Johnson firearms when they were going out of business back in the early '90's. The plant in Jacksonville, Arkansas, being a short drive away, was liquidating guns like crazy at bargain basement prices. I had a buddy with an FFL and I ended up with a few from fire sale, including this .22 auto. It's still unfired in the box.
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Great story, but what is an 8N and what is a yout?
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Great story, but what is an 8N and what is a yout?
As previously mentioned an 8N is a Ford tractor, and "yout" is slang for "youth".
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Lucky you. Your family was rich. My heirloom gun is just a 1951 vintage Ruger pistol. The one that cost $37.50 and was for those who couldn't afford a Woodsman
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I have watched with interest the following posts. The last handgun I will ever get rid of is my pre war Woodsman. It sleeps under the seat of my truck as I type. Mine was bought well used and in the last 40 years I have made it more used. Since we are telling stories I will relate just a few of mine. I traded off an inaccurate gun for this bluing shy gun with little knowledge of this make. Upon buying the gun, my father and I had to go into the desert to a job site. While traveling a dirt road in his Caddie we saw some ravens sitting on a dead cow. I told him to stop and I would like to try for one. Upon slowing the ravens took flight. Out the car window I fired the first shot ever with this gun. I took a flying raven with the first pull of the trigger out a car window traveling around 30 mph. I knew I had a keeper. I have since shot a few other flying birds, a few fish, scads of rabbits and prairie dogs, and while I was escorting deer and elk hunters I used this gun to finish off @ 10 deer and elk every year. These incidents were quite common. There are some things I did with this gun I will not relate here as some would call me a liar. Great little guns.
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The receipt I have when my dad purchased the Woodsman Match Target was $150.00 in 1952.

Around that time Commanders were on sale for $70...
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Lucky you, red ruger insert and was probably put together by Bill himself.

I inherited Dad's 1959 Ruger Single Six 22 LR with the 4 5/8th bbl. I learned to shoot pistols with it and brought home lots of small game. I wouldn't trade it for a "real valuable" gun as they couldn't replace the memories.
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[QUOTE=30-30remchester; There are some things I did with this gun I will not relate here as some would call me a liar. Great little guns.[/QUOTE]

Well I for one would't call you a purveyor of tall tales.

Done a few and have seen some remarkable shots.

What I have come to learn about some folks is, they have never seen such things, not done such things nor even tried.
Therefore it is not possible.

I've done a few, my Bro, Dad and a guy I grew up with's Dad have. Usually the naysayers 1st words are, that's impossible or boy aren't you lucky.

Wanna see it again. Think it's still luck? They often say, well it's not possible. I learned to ignore them.
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I enjoyed reading the stories of other Woodsman pistols in this thread. After doing a good bit of web surfing, it struck me that a good many had homemade or aftermarket stocks. Maybe the originals didn't fit the hand well or maybe they cracked. Hard to know as I am new to this model. I did get to shoot it recently and my granddad and I didn't shoot to the same spot but the gun did group well. The pic attached is at 10 yds, a 5 shot group with standard velocity CCI lead. ( I kind of pulled that top shot) I have since adjusted it to shoot to PoA.


Turnerriver, I bought a Eubanks holster that was supposedly for a 6 5/8" Woodsman, marked 89 TW 6 CC. It has a closed muzzle and is a bit short for my Woodsman as I can't come close to snapping the strap. I suppose I can use it for a shorter barreled Colt but do you know what this one was made for? Thanks.
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I enjoyed reading the stories of other Woodsman pistols in this thread. After doing a good bit of web surfing, it struck me that a good many had homemade or aftermarket stocks. Maybe the originals didn't fit the hand well or maybe they cracked. Hard to know as I am new to this model. I did get to shoot it recently and my granddad and I didn't shoot to the same spot but the gun did group well. The pic attached is at 10 yds, a 5 shot group with standard velocity CCI lead. ( I kind of pulled that top shot) I have since adjusted it to shoot to PoA.


Turnerriver, I bought a Eubanks holster that was supposedly for a 6 5/8" Woodsman, marked 89 TW 6 CC. It has a closed muzzle and is a bit short for my Woodsman as I can't come close to snapping the strap. I suppose I can use it for a shorter barreled Colt but do you know what this one was made for? Thanks.
The 2nd & 3rd series Woodsman Target with a 6" barrel would be my guess- not the Match Target. 89 is the holster model number and the 6 should be the barrel length leaving TW-Target Woodsman- & CC, if that signified Combat Commander or Colt Commander it would be obvious. So Target Wwodsman is my best guess.
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