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Seecamps slow to sell off Gunbroker...?
Only been watching them for about 2 weeks, but for such high praises they don't seem to move much. Gotta put my hands on one before I bite. Really like to pocket carry. Sold my NAA Wasp and replaced it with a Bond Arms Mini .357 2-1/2". A little slow to bring into action and only 2, otherwise simple with manageable recoil. Gives me time to get to my 649-3 in the KangarooCarry. Seecamp is just so much smaller than everything else... So many guns...
Stay safe, John
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I bought this Seecamp .32 for my son for Christmas, second Sunday in December from a LGS; $449.99 plus tax. They are now $499.99; I went back to get one for myself and left without it. It is a cool gun, fairly accurate out to five yards. Very particular about ammo.
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I'm an owner and a fan, but they are, in my opinion, a niche gun. Prices on them, irrespective of caliber (.25ACP, .32ACP, or .380ACP) used to be crazy high, but I usually see the used ones selling around the $400.00 to $500.00 mark. By the way, they aren't that much fun to shoot, in my opinion. I own a .32ACP model, and I wouldn't want to shoot the .380ACP version. I shoot WW Silvertips in mine, which I believe were the original ammo they were designed to be used in it. Subsequently, there are now additional ammo brands/types that are authorized by the factory, but I like the Silvertips. I generally carry mine in a Galco horsehide pocket holster, and I especially like to carry it as back-up to my S&W Model 432PD. Per the factory, if the 432 will chamber the .32ACP rounds, they can be safely fired in the revolver - obviously the converse is not true. I've heard them called "the thinking man's derringer", and I think that is an apt label. I will try to add photos later.
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PS - photo added. By the way, I've never had a lick of trouble out of mine. It has always gone "bang" when it was supposed to. I remember years ago a magazine writer saying if he ever had to use the Seecamp in a self-defense situation, he was going to rapidly fire it at his assailant, and in effect, create the same effect as if he fired a round of 12 ga. buckshot at him. Yeah, good luck with that. The Seecamp is a DAO. I bet even Jerry Miculek would have trouble rapid firing a Seecamp.
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FYI, my son's Seecamp would not function with Hornady or MagTech ammo, hardball Remington and Winchester was too long to be inserted into the magazine.
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Interesting artifact of a bygone time, now superseded as a tool by the plethora of inexpensive, reliable, locked-breech .380s that are not fussy about ammo. Ah, but when I managed a gun store in the late '80s, the Seecamps were possessed of a magical aura . . .
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I recall a magazine article, where the author took hardball and seated it deeper in the case, to the same OAL as the Silvertip. That allowed him practice with the cheaper hardball.
Don't recall the author or the magazine, but do remember reading it. Said that the gun was designed to use Winchester Silvertips, and ball ammo was too long to fit in the mag.
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They are nice quality, but as other have stated, they are quirky little rascals.
I have found that Winchester White Box works and based on HP performance I use hard ball anyway.
Both my wife and I have them and at bad breath range they are pretty durned accurate.
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I remember seeing one sell used at gunshow, in the '90s when they were virtually unobtainable, for $1000 cash.
As stated above, part of the mystique was that only Winchester Silver Tips would feed.
They had a niche that has since been filled w/ several other mass produced pistols. I have a Kel Tec P32 that functions flawlessly with all types of ammo that I bought for a fraction of the price & is capable of minute of bad guy accuracy out to 10-15 yards.....
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Not sure I've got the patience for quirky. If it went bang every time with the recommended ammo (and it could be had) maybe. I don't mind maintenance either. Plus if I could put my hands on one... Thanks for the input folks!
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Larry Seecamp sold the company? I haven't been on the Seecamp forum in quite awhile.
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I remember having one in the 80s. It wouldn't work, even with silvertips. I looked up the number and called the company. A nice gentleman answered the phone and I explained the problem. He said send it back and I'll make it feed anything. I asked his name so that I could include a note. He said my name is Larry. I then said Larry who? He said Larry Seacamp. I was in one way impressed but in another way concerned that he couldnt pay someone minimum wage to answer the phone. He did turn it around very quickly and just like he said , it would feed anything.
It had first edition first 200 or 400 or something like that engraved into the slide.
I agree with other posters that the keltec killed the Seacamp and the lcp killed the keltec. The bodyguard is trying to eat the scraps that the lcp leaves it. ( mostly hard core S&W guys.) ,which leaves nothing for the
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Interesting artifact of a bygone time, now superseded as a tool by the plethora of inexpensive, reliable, locked-breech .380s that are not fussy about ammo. Ah, but when I managed a gun store in the late '80s, the Seecamps were possessed of a magical aura . . .
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Tell me Erich, do you know what plethora means......Well, you told me I have a plethora. And I just would like to know if you know what a plethora is. I would not like to think that a person would tell someone he has a plethora, and then find out that that person has *no idea* what it means to have a plethora.
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You mean the primary vernacular meaning ("a whole bunch") or the medical meaning ("a big disgusting mess, usually of blood")? (Mom's a nurse.)
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I've never owned one but have fired two over the years (about 20 years ago) - neither one would function 100% even with the recommended Winchester ammo. After experiencing the high FTF rates I never had much interest in them.
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Yep, John Whalley, of the Whalley Computor family purchased the company. They are located and being built right down the street from me in Southwick.... My brother in law worked there for a while.. set me up to get a gun, but I just couldn't take the time to get over there and get it... Oh well, happy I didn't, cause it doesn't look like the best gun on the market... I did pick an older one up on a trade a few years ago... didn't care for it then either... sold it for more than I paid for it so I was happy..
But!!!! Now that I SEE LADDER HAS ONE.... I JUST MIGHT HAVE TO RETHINK THIS ONE...
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The Seecamp I bought my son works just fine with Winchester Silvertips. I do think a $500.00 handgun should come with two magazines, rather than one.
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I HAVE BOTH A .32 AND 380. CAN'T GET ANYTHING SMALLER IN THOSE CALIBERS. BUT THEY SIT HEAVY IN THE POCKET (YES IN A PROPER HOLSTER). LIKE HAVING A ROLL OF QUARTERS. I'M THINKING THE RUGER(YES I KNOW) LCP. IT WEIGHS A ONCE MORE BUT IT FEELS LIGHTER IN THE POCKET. WEIGHT SPREAD OVER A LARGER SURFACE I THINK. LCP IS ON SALE AT RURAL KING THIS WEEK FOR $ 209. CABELAS HAD THEM ON SALE FOR $ 199 BUT A COUNTY TAX OF $25 PER GUN PUSHED IT OVER MY LIMIT. JP
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A $400+ 32acp with no sights doesn't appeal to a lot of people. There are legitimate complaints about them as well, such as not being able to pull the trigger without the magazine inserted (will damage the trigger spring), and that they won't reliably feed most ammo (I've had no problems with Winchester). That said, mine is not for sale and I will continue to carry it occasionally. As to the new tiny plastic pocket guns... life is too short for an ugly gun - one thing the Seecamp is not IMHO.
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I'll stick with my bodyquard...
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I had an NAA .380 which is a sort of copy of the seecamp, bt it was too heavy and bulky compared to what else was becoming available then. It was a quality gun and reliable, but out dated.
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Interesting artifact of a bygone time, now superseded as a tool by the plethora of inexpensive, reliable, locked-breech .380s that are not fussy about ammo. Ah, but when I managed a gun store in the late '80s, the Seecamps were possessed of a magical aura . . .
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Yes, a great little pocket gun that time has passed by. There are many small autos now in 32 and 380, and even 9mm, that will do just as well (or better) and cost you less.
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