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Old 03-15-2016, 03:47 PM
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I purchased a used p220 and wanted to upgrade the recoil spring. I then purchased a new recoil spring (not from Sig) and it is green on one end and 1 1/8 inch longer than the original. When I installed it - I can't get the slide to go fully to the rear.

Does this new recoil spring sound like the right part? Is this normal for a new recoil spring? Any help - advice would be appreciated before I call Sig. Thx

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Not normal.
Where did you get the new spring? It should be green on the end if you have a full size 220, red if you have a 220 Carry.
Did you seat the guide rod back in it's little cut out on the barrel?

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Off the top of my head I believe the older P220s had #15 springs newer ones have #20 springs. Green ended spring is a #20. Make sure the green part is on the guide rod not on the slide. The painted end is a bit narrower. The newer spring in and older gun could be the issue or it could be installed backwards.

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Off the top of my head I believe the older P220s had #15 springs newer ones have #20 springs. Green ended spring is a #20. Make sure the green part is on the guide rod not on the slide. The painted end is a bit narrower. The newer spring in and older gun could be the issue or it could be installed backwards.
The older guns West German 3 ser.#, Welded slide have 15lb. single wire springs.

I have changed out the wrong springs in many early Sigs.
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As the old saying goes, a picture is worth a 1,000 words. New on the top (green) and original on the bottom. I believe based on the S\N this was manufactured in 2005. If I need a #15, can I still find one or do I need to cut the #20?

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As the old saying goes, a picture is worth a 1,000 words. New on the top (green) and original on the bottom. I believe based on the S\N this was manufactured in 2005. If I need a #15, can I still find one or do I need to cut the #20?

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Is your slide stainless steel or folded carbon? 2005 was the start of the stainless slide as the default.
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stainless slide & black frame.

Well - here's the best part - i didn't even know what I purchased LOL. After looking on the Sig website and taking some measurements, this appears to be close if not in fact the "carry" version. I only know I wanted the DAk and it's definitely that.

Duh - that's embarassing.

Anyway - the sig store shows the Carry 220 recoil spring (red). It also has 9 coils like mine - so I think I need the carry recoil spring.

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Are you sure you don't have a 220 Carry. Is that red I see on your original spring there?
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stainless slide & black frame.
I would think it would work but clearly it is not. I would get a 15 lbs Wolf spring.

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Yup - I think its the carry - per my previous reply. Mystery solved.

BTW - thank you all for your help and special thanks to dusty for the link

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Also your original red spring is a multi strand, the old 15lbs were not.
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Cool! What hasn't been said is the 220 is an awesome gun!
Glad you figured it out.
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well I guess I don't have any use for the green spring. Anyone on this post who responded to help me out and sends me a PM FIRST, I will drop it in the mail to you.
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WVSig is the winner! Thanks again guys!

BTW - one last question. I purchased a few Act-mags for the p220. They seem to get good reviews. I figure if they are not - use for the range.
Are they as good as factory sig mags?
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WVSig is the winner! Thanks again guys!

BTW - one last question. I purchased a few Act-mags for the p220. They seem to get good reviews. I figure if they are not - use for the range.
Are they as good as factory sig mags?
They are good mags. There was a time where there were some issues with the tubes but these days they have been reinforced and are a great value at about $20 vs Sig OEM for $40.
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